UNDERCUTTING....

[Geo]

Doesn't really matter if the mat cost is X, and the finished item is Y.

Sometimes in life you pay for labor, and convenience, me personally I'll pay to have both.

Either way, undercutting by more than 1gil is just silly, why not make more gil if you can....

[Wolfie]

Doesn't really matter if the mat cost is X, and the finished item is Y.

Sometimes in life you pay for labor, and convenience, me personally I'll pay to have both.

Either way, undercutting by more than 1gil is just silly, why not make more gil if you can....

Why have competitors when I can drive them out of business by selling low and fast?

[TheVedis]

Why have competitors when I can drive them out of business by selling low and fast?

is it really competition when your losing money to do?

Can you really be proud of losing of losing millions to stop someone else from selling something before you?

[Matsume]

is it really competition when your losing money to do?

Can you really be proud of losing of losing millions to stop someone else from selling something before you?

Ontop of that Wolfie's loss is some other crafters gain and a compounded loss on herself.

Example: Wolfie undercuts a HQ raw material. Crafter buys cheap HQ raw material. Crafter makes HQ item. Crafter sells HQ item for exorbitant price to Wolfie. Wolfie pays exorbitant price for HQ item made with her own raw material Crafter wins two fold, wolfie loses two fold. Of course this doesn't apply to wolfie on the condition that wolfie doesn't buy crafted items, but it applies to the next person in line. It's just a thought...

[Wolfie]

is it really competition when your losing money to do?

Can you really be proud of losing of losing millions to stop someone else from selling something before you?

If I'm losing money selling the item, then I won't sell it.

But let me come up with a fictional example. An item costs 1mil to make, and it sells for 10mil because few people make it and they've all decided that it should be priced at 10mil.

I come along and sell my item for 8mil. I'm still making a big profit, and I can ensure that I'm the only one selling the item now. Nobody is going to buy it for 10mil. Those other people are either going to have to bow out, or drop their prices to compete with me -- at which point I get to decide again if I want to drop my price and drive them out, or if it's no longer worth it for me to make and sell this item.

During this whole process, I'm not losing anything. I'm the only one making pure profit.

[Matsume]

If I'm losing money selling the item, then I won't sell it.

But let me come up with a fictional example. An item costs 1mil to make, and it sells for 10mil because few people make it and they've all decided that it should be priced at 10mil.

I come along and sell my item for 8mil. I'm still making a big profit, and I can ensure that I'm the only one selling the item now. Nobody is going to buy it for 10mil. Those other people are either going to have to bow out, or drop their prices to compete with me -- at which point I get to decide again if I want to drop my price and drive them out, or if it's no longer worth it for me to make and sell this item.

During this whole process, I'm not losing anything. I'm the only one making pure profit.

Then one day someone comes along and sells the item for 1mil and you never get to sell it again...TRUE STORY

[Wolfie]

Then one day someone comes along and sells the item for 1mil and you never get to sell it again...TRUE STORY

Then I move on to the next item that nets me profit. Economy 101.

[Geo]

If I'm losing money selling the item, then I won't sell it.

But let me come up with a fictional example. An item costs 1mil to make, and it sells for 10mil because few people make it and they've all decided that it should be priced at 10mil.

I come along and sell my item for 8mil. I'm still making a big profit, and I can ensure that I'm the only one selling the item now. Nobody is going to buy it for 10mil. Those other people are either going to have to bow out, or drop their prices to compete with me -- at which point I get to decide again if I want to drop my price and drive them out, or if it's no longer worth it for me to make and sell this item.

During this whole process, I'm not losing anything. I'm the only one making pure profit.

This is the dumbest comment ever. Because, more people will continue to undercut and drive the price to the ground. Look at the big picture genius, if they buy it for 8mill they'll buy it for 9,999,999 gil as well.

Undercutting is fine.... and great.

Undercutting by 10-20% is stupid it drives the price down way too fast, and eventually the items aren't worth the time and effort.]

And this is why I stay in the double/triple meld business, because people don't like chance money. And we make our own prices.

[TheVedis]

This is the dumbest comment ever. Because, more people will continue to undercut and drive the price to the ground. Look at the big picture genius, if they buy it for 8mill they'll buy it for 9,999,999 gil as well.

Undercutting is fine.... and great.

Undercutting by 10-20% is stupid it drives the price down way too fast, and eventually the items aren't worth the time and effort.

you want stupid

item sells for 10k, stacks of 99
someone posts a single piece of that item up, not even a stack, for 8k gil

and the 10k sellers notice this, and instead of waiting out the 1 guy with his single piece, undercut him too bringing the price down to 5k...


thats the kind of inteligence people are working with right now.


or also, 500+ of an item sells per day, about that much is made to make sure theirs sells this morning instead of being sold perhaps when they get home from work, they cut the cost 50%.
their item would have easily sold, but they insist on doing it anyway because they demand it sells first

[Denmo]