UNDERCUTTING....

[Nabiri]

It seems some people just can't stand competition of any sort.
They become furious when faced with it.

I don't think an economy could exist in-game where prices remain the same all the time. They fluctuate based on many different things.

Something's worth to one person isn't the same to another. It's not something to be angry about though. This is just a game. If people are selling an item for 40k, and I want to get rid of mine and make some quick cash I'll sell for 30k. If they go 25, I'll go 20. I want my things sold fast. As long as I'm making a profit I'm happy.
Also, if it's a lower level piece of equipment I don't feel it should be so expensive that new people have trouble affording it. I may decide my own price of what I think it's worth without even looking at what other people are selling for.

[Efrye]

It seems some people just can't stand competition of any sort. [...]

I don't think this is about competition. There's just no fun in camping the market 24/7 and wait for someone to go 1 gil below your price, then remove your item from the retainer's bazaar, wait 5 seconds for the UI to catch up with you, put up the item at the new price, repeat. Repeat forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and...

As a culinarian, there are some items I simply cannot sell at all. Shortly after I put up my Shepherd's Pie or Meat Miq'abob or whatever, someone will undercut me by 1 gil and that's it. The price usually doesn't go back up from there, and I don't have the time to camp the markets and constantly adjust my retainer.

I don't have any easy solution to fix this either though. I just hope the new market system in 2.0 will alleviate the problem a little.

[Darkillumina]

Its cause a lot of ppl are greedy. Folks selling the new class only equip for 10 mil per piece then gets mad when someone undercuts them. Lucky my crafts are not high other wise i would be selling that stuff for super cheap.

If you were a high level armorer you wouldn't be saying that. It is by no means easy nor cheap to produce. Heavy Darksteel requires a flawless darksteel chest-piece which is essentially a HQ which thus requires a heavy investment in coke to produce darksteel ingots + 1. If your luck is garbage this is a nightmare because A. Coke is expensive (100k PER PIECE unless your hamlet is leveled up) and B. Since Coke doesn't have a +1 version you don't get a higher quality start. If you don't get the flawless chest-piece you have to repeat it all over again.

Repeat this process for every single piece. It's a huge time sink and if your luck is bad, a huge gil sink. So yeah go ahead and sell the finished item for 500k. This isn't cobalt gear you can pump out in <2 minutes.

I don't feel like debating with the pretentious wanna-be economists so I'll leave it at that.

[KumaAkuma]

Your item won't sell faster if you undercut from 40k to 30k than if you undercut it to 39k. But yeah if you want to give it away, go for it.

You're putting in a lot more effort trying to make money tho.

[Nabiri]

Your item won't sell faster if you undercut from 40k to 30k than if you undercut it to 39k. But yeah if you want to give it away, go for it.

You're putting in a lot more effort trying to make money tho.

If you were speaking to me, I'm actually putting in FAR less effort.. And my reasoning for pricing this way is:

Whenever I try to sell something QUICK for only slightly less than what others are selling for... (ex. Them: 40k, Me: 39k) someone will almost instantly go slightly lower (ex. 38k). I find people are less likely to do so if I price for quite a bit lower. I end up making my money fast, and it's done with. I don't have to check the wards every half hour. I can leave it knowing I have a nice competitive price going and I'm still making 100% profit.

Little effort, fast money, 100% profit. It's a pretty good situation if you ask me. :3

[Akun]

Your item won't sell faster if you undercut from 40k to 30k than if you undercut it to 39k.

But seeing the item 10k less could convince someone who was on the fence about the purchase to buy, thus moving my item

[Zaaku]

I have transcended the Market Wards and now make my gil free of its limitations and turmoil.

Glory be to the Chocobo!

[VytasBismarck]

Another pointless QQ thread...
Undercutting will be here forever, deal with it.
Only way to avoid undercutting is selling shit for 1gil lols
Don't have time to reset your prices - {That's too bad}.
Wanna complain about it? - call your mom, cause this is not the place to do it.

[Leo_Hart]

don't want undercut? make sure ur retainer name always the last one at the same price with others.

[Matsume]

SE please make the AH system like it was in FFXI, make it so we can see the last 20 sales but not the players selling the items, nor the price the items are selling for. This is the only way of preventing people from consistently and methodically undercuttting other players. There are certain people that camp the wards with a specific item and will undercut anyone that tries to undercut them and ther ereally isn't anything one can do against this except sit at the wards al day and do the same...

It would also be nice if you could distinguish HQ items from NQ items, ecause in some cases there are 40 stacks of NQ items for sale and the only way of finding the HQ version is to search the wards retainers one by one. If you insist on keeping the AH system the way it is, at the very least make the sellers screen scrollable so players can scroll past the useless NQ and straight to the HQ...