UNDERCUTTING....

[Lux_Rayna]

people stop getting the mats, then people stop selling the gear cuz they arent making it

and then it all just stops, until that 1 person goes back in and starts to try to make a fortune on it and it starts all over again


what we need is more stability, NOT price drops, profit is what the system is about, trying to tell people otherwise is just insane

Ahhh but thats how markets work, the boom and they crash. If you want stability take out the MW altogether and have npcs buy everything at good prices. Ppl wanted this so you have to live with the reality of economics. This is how it goes, we cant all be winners here. Stability is impossible in any free market...sooner or later the price will crash or boom until it reverses direction.

Maybe SE should just have everything bought and sold through npcs at established prices. Thats basically what youre asking for. Take out MW altogether because its clear ppl cant handle the reality of a competitive market.

[Noblewar]

Bunch of hypocrite people complaining about undercuts.

Why do I dare call you that? Because your all a bunch of greedy a holes. I bet you cry babies buy undercut items! Try arguing with me that you will buy a 600k item when someone undercuts it for 550k! Everyone is GUILTY of buying undercut items anyone dare say they don't only lie to themselves.

I hope MODS lock this worthless thread.

[Achtzen]

Bunch of hypocrite people complaining about undercuts.

Why do I dare call you that? Because your all a bunch of greedy a holes. I bet you cry babies buy undercut items! Try arguing with me that you will buy a 600k item when someone undercuts it for 550k! Everyone is GUILTY of buying undercut items anyone dare say they don't only lie to themselves.

I hope MODS lock this worthless thread.

People by nature are greedy. Nothing wrong there.

[Wolfie]

I highly suggest all of you anti-undecutter people read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

[Matsume]

I highly suggest all of you anti-undecutter people read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

you do realize cartels exist IRL right???

guess what happens when you try to undercut the cartel?

the mafia kills you IRL, no respawn.

[Wolfie]

you do realize cartels exist IRL right???

Yes.

You do realize that I linked it because it says right in the article that they're unsustainable and usually harmful to the economy, right? No, of course you don't, because you didn't read the article. You just looked at the title and commented out of ignorance.

[Wolfie]

guess what happens when you try to undercut the cartel?

the mafia kills you IRL, no respawn.

Since you edited...

The axiom you draw out of this, is, that the cartels are completely unsustainable in FFXIV because there is no penalty for me undercutting you. There is no FFXIV mafia that kills me or my retainer or somehow prevents me from busting your price fixing schemes.

[Matsume]

Yes.

You do realize that I linked it because it says right in the article that they're unsustainable and usually harmful to the economy, right? No, of course you don't, because you didn't read the article. You just looked at the title and commented out of ignorance.

There are uncountable unsustainable and harmful agents to the economy, that doesn't stop them from existing.

Matter of fact you are the ignorant being who wrongfully claims that the anti-undercutters in this thread are attempting to form a cartel. you are the first person to throw the word around like a ragdoll so as to enforce your sense of justice. what's really happening is a bunch of ppl QQ because they are getting undercut, and are asking for the love of the twelve why the undercutters don't just chill out, to which you reply OMG CARTEL

Since you edited...

The axiom you draw out of this, is, that the cartels are completely unsustainable in FFXIV because there is no penalty for me undercutting you. There is no FFXIV mafia that kills me or my retainer or somehow prevents me from busting your price fixing schemes.

where did i draw the conclusion that FFXIV cartels are completely unsustainable? actually, i believe the RMT markets are completely sustainable and have in a sure fire manner monopolized certain items. thanks for confirming to me that there is no mafia in FFXIV, i did not already know this. oh if you don't mind quoting where i attempt to set up a price fixing scheme, that would be nice.

thanks for putting words in my mouth you useless brony.

[SirOleas]

You mean people are able to offer the same items the OP is at a cheaper price?
This is really a problem! The OP cant make obscene amounts of money with other people trying to make money!
Everyone! You must stop putting things in the wards at competitive prices so the OP can make money!

*Goes to undercut mythril ore by 1 gil*

[Orophin]

I find the whole undercutting by 1 gil rather insulting. At least man up and undercut it by 10%. :P (percentage may vary based on asking price)