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    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Here's the thing, science does this ALL THE TIME. It builds a hypothesis, it's proven wrong or right. If wrong, it's adjusted, continue until proven right. We learned about Akasa from a researcher, aka a scientist. We learned about Dynamis from a researcher, aka a scientist. We had confirmation of its existence when suddenly things started appearing from nothing, and returned into nothing, something that should not have been possible from what we know about aether. Y'shtola herself noted that there was 0 aether at the spots that the Terminus were at. This confirms the existence of something other than aether powering them, because they wouldn't be able to react with the world otherwise. We then go to the past a while later and find out it's called Dynamis. We've already seen PROOF that it exists because something that shouldn't exist DID exist.

    We literally fly to the end of the universe, the Loporrits themselves mentioning that there's nothing there. Meteion appears, messes with our heads, Thancred proceeds to strike at her and we black out. We wake up at the same location, with suddenly things being there when there wasn't before. We have LITERALLY seen impossible things, and you're trying to give an excuse for why it is impossible for LBs to have dynamis in them, despite all this?
    At this point, you're just providing meager justifications. "Science does this all the time." Yeah, I remember when electricity was discovered, harnessed, and used in a single decade. That was a wild right, am I right? Hypothesis' by their nature have immense trial and error. However, as with everything in this story, we discover it just in time and understand it just in time and diffuse it just in time and learn to use it just in time against the ultimate incarnation of this element. Just. In. Time.

    Are you seeing the problem?

    I'll also note that you failed to tackle how multiple worlds failed to have enough hope to live or some other shenanigan that powers Dynamis, but 8 brats and a few stab-happy hobos can kill the manifestation of sorrow with it. Please do not cherry-pick arguments. There's a whole hog and if you touch it, you have to eat the whole thing.

    The justification of "impossible things have happened before so they can happen again" doesn't really track when impossibility is... impossible. If impossible things do indeed occur regularly, that is known as either poor writing or a deus ex machina. Which, by now, I admit is becoming something of a regular thing lately in FFXIV. That, however, does not make it good.

    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    I feel like the people saying Endwalker's story is dumb and makes no sense are the same people who only pay attention to voiced cutscenes and skip everything else and still think they have a good grasp on the story/lore.

    Also, I've seen a lot of bad takes but "Endwalker is the Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls of FFXIV" takes the cake for me.
    And another strawman. Because, obviously, it's impossible that this story has flaws and people don't like it, right? We clearly weren't paying attention? God, you people will just NOT stop with this. FFXIV, and subsequently, Endwalker is not a creation crafted by the actual literal divine. There are problems with it. It infuriates me how the only argument you can muster is "haha u ppl just not pay attention". Like, really? Your best argument is just making up ghosts about the other side? How compelling.

    At least be like Hayk. While I clearly don't agree at all with his notions, he's clearly attempting to explain why this works in his perspective. There's an exchange of ideas, even if we may not like the ideas or judgments the other has made. You simply waltzed in here, said that everyone who doesn't like what you like is stupid, then walked out.
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    Last edited by BrokentoothMarch; 12-22-2021 at 06:10 PM.

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