PvP Rewards; 6.1 and beyond.

[Commander_Justitia]

Of course crowns and trophies etc should remain exclusive to those people, but If we want PvP to be exciting and a content people do all the time, then having these mounts and gearsets is definitely something that would attract people and keep them playing. I know they are sought after by a lot of people, and unfortunalely 99.9% of the players don't own those mounts. Less than 0.1% of players having any of those mounts is unacceptable for how good they look.

Your reasoning why it is 'unacceptable' is because 'unfortunately 99,9% don't own it' ? That is by itself not a very good reason.
You know what would attract people to play PvP? just any good looking reward tbh, doesn't have to be an old one

each top100 reward is basically 'the trophy' of that season, idk why we only should include top1 or top10 in that circle of remaining exclusivity. If they release top100 reskins they can release top1 trophy reskins for the casual frontline player idm, its the same to me...

If you don't understand why it is "sacred" then you just can't differ between PvE and PvP I guess. I would rather voice&support your concern about moogle tomestone events that you brought up, instead of demanding that every rare item gets the same treatment, which would be pretty sad for the game in my opinion.

But ye we will see with 6.1 or later, and given their track record of PvP reskins for PvE and less items for the PvP mode overall in the last addon, one is not very hopeful about them not taking the forbidden ranked-feastreward fruit, just to save dev time and release on time. I hope they don't take that shortcut.

[Garten]

If i can just add my 2 cents, imho they should go like this..
Old rewards can rot to hell.. wathever..
For a new system i think they could leave top1, top10 and top100. They should get only titles and trophies or plates (i mean a furnishing item like). Beside that should exist a similar battle pass sistem that let you achieve with hard work mounts and glamours..

what do you think? i think that could be a nice compromise..

[Nanne]

leave top1, top10 and top100. They should get only titles and trophies or plates (i mean a furnishing item like). Beside that should exist a similar battle pass sistem that let you achieve with hard work mounts and glamours.

So everything available for everyone and people who play ranked can obtain the bracket titles on top of that? Sounds good actually

[Starshower]

Your reasoning why it is 'unacceptable' is because 'unfortunately 99,9% don't own it' ? That is by itself not a very good reason.
You know what would attract people to play PvP? just any good looking reward tbh, doesn't have to be an old one

each top100 reward is basically 'the trophy' of that season, idk why we only should include top1 or top10 in that circle of remaining exclusivity. If they release top100 reskins they can release top1 trophy reskins for the casual frontline player idm, its the same to me...

If you don't understand why it is "sacred" then you just can't differ between PvE and PvP I guess. I would rather voice&support your concern about moogle tomestone events that you brought up, instead of demanding that every rare item gets the same treatment, which would be pretty sad for the game in my opinion.

But ye we will see with 6.1 or later, and given their track record of PvP reskins for PvE and less items for the PvP mode overall in the last addon, one is not very hopeful about them not taking the forbidden ranked-feastreward fruit, just to save dev time and release on time. I hope they don't take that shortcut.

Would it be acceptable for you if we got those old mounts and gearsets, but in a new color? That would be alright for me, but a passerby wouldn't know your colorway is the rare one, would that sour it for you?

[Commander_Justitia]

Would it be acceptable for you if we got those old mounts and gearsets, but in a new color?

They could have made it like that, if they designed it that way from the start, but I don't feel like it is gonna work out now, at least for glamour. Simply because there is barely any difference between the reskins past season2. You need a magnifier to see the differences for some sets, because they are all dyeable by default, so if something is made both in black for example - you have like 5 pixels that are different. Not even PvP players gonna see the difference with the latest reskinsets.

If you look at mounts they already brought some back from 1-2years ago with a second reskin just before Feast ended, so maybe there will be more. The new system will reward you for just participating any PvP duty already, the effort wouldn't be similar...That is the real issue I guess, would suck if it becomes a grind activity with no knowledge/skill involved.

If you look at the hellhound for example, there are already 4 versions of it, and some PvE mounts even use the very same skelton - Fenrir, Managarm and Kamuy/Ninetails. It is already blue/red/green/silverlila - do we really need the whole rainbow? Yellow White hellhounds ? idk

When they could just release instead an even cooler hellhound skeletontype mount with wings - Tioman

In the end having fun is the objective, the next pvp patch seems like its promising if balancing isnt a mess, and it will make the reward system better for casual players even if the old rewards are not in it. I think many of the players complaining in the past they didnt get it, would have gotten it if they had more fun with the mode, as it wasn't that difficult in some seasons with low gold floor.

[Garten]

So everything available for everyone and people who play ranked can obtain the bracket titles on top of that? Sounds good actually

Yeah. Of course i dont mean that it should become something braindead, like is collecting wolfmark for example or people would just spam matches and afk. There should be like daily or weekly challenges that grant points toward the battle pass.. i have not a lot of experience with this type of mechanic, but i always thought the fortnite one was simple understandable..

[Anzyx]

I think the t100 players who had to no-life the game would feel a bit betrayed if their hard-earned rewards were just thrown into a new system for everyone to get after a set amount of time casually doing PVP. Then again, overall it would make even more people happy to be able to have a chance to receive rewards such as the dope DarkSouls like armour sets. It's a tough thing. If it did come to it, I would be for putting anything into the system in order to make PVP more active and enjoyable. Totally understandable if someone who does own a top 100 reward would not want others to obtain it as it makes them unique in a sea of the same old glamour and mounts everyone can easily obtain. It's some of the few things where if you see them in town or open-world you always have to examine them cause it's soo cool. We have few things in this game like that nowadays and I guess it's cool to keep it that way.

[Sinstrel]

Let the veteran players keep their exclusive rewards. Give the new players re-skins. Everyone is happy \o/

[Stormfur]

Bring back the old stuff + add new stuff. Stuff to work toward just like every other mode.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

In no other part of the game (well, there is the Restoration titles for crafters, another blunder) such an obtuse and unrewarding system was in place as in the Feast.
The whole game mode eventually failed because it wasn't fun, it wasn't rewarding and it was rigged/was abusable.

None of those rewards is worth keeping behind bars if they could be used to fuel PvP modes, recurrent track rewards, etc. But no matter how many new PvP modes they add, if they again make them as they were in the Feast, that game mode will also be a failure. Because it was from the begining the rigged and completely out of place ladderboard and reward structure which doomed the Feast in the end. There is no worth on rewards that were given out on rigged competitions, people was trading all over the place we all know SE never gived a damned, act as much as you like: "oh but i worked hard for them" - maybe, but we have no way to tell - And that's exactly why it wasn't a proper competition to begin with. When a proper competition is in place there are also systems in place to validate and oversee that the competition is always legit... Not such thing happend in all the years of the feast.

It's rewards are stained. You got no way to tell anyone "I legit won this mount/armor in PvP". Because there was no proper competition systems in the beging - And mind you, this game mode was supposedly built with e-sports in mind.

A complete failure. The one good thing they could for the Feast aside eliminating even the rankings would be to release it's rewards (of course with a proper token-economy system that encouraged daily PvP participation). As a manner of restoration for all the players that actually like PvP but cannot be bothered to participate in rigged competitions that were more closely related to fixing your schedule and evading tilters than actual PvP skills.