Thread: PvP Rewards; 6.1 and beyond.

I think the t100 players who had to no-life the game would feel a bit betrayed if their hard-earned rewards were just thrown into a new system for everyone to get after a set amount of time casually doing PVP. Then again, overall it would make even more people happy to be able to have a chance to receive rewards such as the dope DarkSouls like armour sets. It's a tough thing. If it did come to it, I would be for putting anything into the system in order to make PVP more active and enjoyable. Totally understandable if someone who does own a top 100 reward would not want others to obtain it as it makes them unique in a sea of the same old glamour and mounts everyone can easily obtain. It's some of the few things where if you see them in town or open-world you always have to examine them cause it's soo cool. We have few things in this game like that nowadays and I guess it's cool to keep it that way.

Let the veteran players keep their exclusive rewards. Give the new players re-skins. Everyone is happy \o/

Bring back the old stuff + add new stuff. Stuff to work toward just like every other mode.

Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau

You got no way to tell anyone "I legit won this mount/armor in PvP".

Now see, this is just disrespectful to the people who grinded literal thousands of hours for their achievement per season.

You're right though, the exclusive rewards aren't common throughout the game, but I fail to see why that's a bad thing? The devs try their best to have a piece of the game for every type of player, and the Ranked PVP is for the sweaty tryhards who enjoy competition. I don't understand the concept that everything must always be for you. If you don't like it, don't do it, you don't see me crying over the Morbal mount being locked behind BLU that I don't care to do. Or hunt mounts, or crafter mounts, etc.

Also you cannot just blanket statement every resentment you have for the game mode. Is it perfect? No, and many of us look forward to the upcoming changes, but saying things like "The whole game mode eventually failed because it wasn't fun" when I legitimately had fun at times(not all the time, lets be real), or "Because it was from the begining the rigged and completely out of place ladderboard and reward structure" bruh, I played Tank. That's 30min-1hour queues in a role that doesn't carry as hard as melee or healer. If it was that "riggable" I wouldn't have to play 600 games to secure my spot. "people was trading all over the place", there are about 10 times as many legitimate alt accounts than there are wintraders, you want to free up space on the Top100 boards? Tackle that first. "A complete failure." tell you what, YOU add on PVP to a game that wasn't built with PVP in mind and you try to cater to both the hardcore veterans as well as the daily casuals and tell me if you can nail it on the first try. Almost everything added into this game is trial and error, go look up Diadem, check out the first Alexander Raids on release.

I want the competition. I want the exclusivity. It's what I enjoy more than a majority of the other content in the game. If it's not for you, then don't play it. All this complaining while in the last live letter they announced changes to the ranking structure not to mention how the new game mode actually works in a way that it should make it more difficult for cheaters. Imagine if all the people asking for rewards to be freebies instead wrote posts on the lack of intervention from SE on cheaters.

Originally Posted by Ixon

the exclusive rewards aren't common throughout the game, but I fail to see why that's a bad thing? The devs try their best to have a piece of the game for every type of player, and the Ranked PVP is for the sweaty tryhards who enjoy competition. I don't understand the concept that everything must always be for you. If you don't like it, don't do it, you don't see me crying over the Morbal mount being locked behind BLU that I don't care to do. Or hunt mounts, or crafter mounts, etc.

Hmm I think the sentiment for most is not that the rewards were exclusive, its that they are completely non-obtainable once the season is over. If one were to theoretically hear about FFXIV for the first time in 2021 and then subsequently go on to become by far and away the greatest Feast player of all time, they will never be able to obtain a Felhound mount. Where as if that same person found out about Morbol/Legend status/whatever and then became the best at their craft, they COULD obtain those things. The Feast rewards should remain extraordinary feats. But they don't need to be removed from the game. When new players join this game and see a past reward, ask where its from, and then want to obtain it only to find out they cant... What is the incentive participate in PvP at all if they can't get the reward they wanted no matter how good they got at it?

Originally Posted by Sinstrel

Hmm I think the sentiment for most is not that the rewards were exclusive, its that they are completely non-obtainable once the season is over. If one were to theoretically hear about FFXIV for the first time in 2021 and then subsequently go on to become by far and away the greatest Feast player of all time, they will never be able to obtain a Felhound mount. Where as if that same person found out about Morbol/Legend status/whatever and then became the best at their craft, they COULD obtain those things. The Feast rewards should remain extraordinary feats. But they don't need to be removed from the game. When new players join this game and see a past reward, ask where its from, and then want to obtain it only to find out they cant... What is the incentive participate in PvP at all if they can't get the reward they wanted no matter how good they got at it?

The incentive is the next reward. If they stopped handing out rewards all together, then maybe that would be something to think about, but they didn't. Each new season came with it's own unique(albeit sometimes recolored) reward. The rewards are more than just a reward, they stand as a trophy to idolize the achievement of their efforts in a particular season. Just as they do in many other games with similar seasonal rankings. I don't have every seasonal reward, yet I continued to play every season so I could get the next thing, not the past thing. Besides, I don't want past items that even I don't have re-introduced. I wasn't there, I didn't participate, my skill was not tested then and there, I don't feel the need to have those trophies.

What if they had leaderboards that were just for show, like the rankings for POTD or Free Company? Would anyone care then? It's doubtful. PVP players need something to work toward too. But opening it up for more players is a good thing, since we WANT more people to play PVP even if the game wasn't designed for it at its core. Let's say Rank 1 is the highest you can get and you start at 50 or something and work your way up. Wouldn't it be enough for you if YOU achieved Rank 1 along with several others? Or does it HAVE to be you to the exclusion of everyone else?

(Granted if FFXIV PVP was an actual e-sport having such a ranked leaderboard would make sense, but it's not and despite their best efforts, it will never be).