I'm glad we finally got a summoner class.

[Awarewolf]

I don't see DoTs coming back to SMN at all and if I'm reading the signs right, they might end up taking some away from other jobs to create a new DoT focused job in the future. They did something similar with DNC when they gave it a lot of tools that MCH and BRD lost. I could just be imagining things but I am very much getting the feeling that 7.0 will introduce a new DoT focused job with Bio Miasma Shadowflare and a few other things.

Oracle like in Final Fantasy Tactics. All debuffs and DoTs. I’d play it.

[MagiusNecros]

I don't see DoTs coming back to SMN at all and if I'm reading the signs right, they might end up taking some away from other jobs to create a new DoT focused job in the future. They did something similar with DNC when they gave it a lot of tools that MCH and BRD lost. I could just be imagining things but I am very much getting the feeling that 7.0 will introduce a new DoT focused job with Bio Miasma Shadowflare and a few other things.

Necromancer could easily be a DoT class with some bursty skills. Even if I think Reaper is the closest we are going to get to a FF5 Necro.

[Tylorien]

Aether charges and energy siphon feel like relics now since only fester uses them and they could easily be on a charge based cooldown thus removing two more fluff buttons. Perhaps make them also heal health and mana like they used to.

On this note specifically, I almost feel like if they wanted to keep the aetherflow charges what they could do is axe the drain spells completely and make each elemental primal we summon generate aetherflow stacks and further ruin charges. Would make aetherflow generation fit into the kit better at the very least.


On the note of dots, while I never liked them on summoner, I don't doubt they could have showhorned them in somehow if they really want to. My pet theory is that given FF14 is lacking in ANY classes that use a hammer/mace (which is kind of weird) that they took the dots so they can give them to a green mage class later.

[SieyaM]

On this note specifically, I almost feel like if they wanted to keep the aetherflow charges what they could do is axe the drain spells completely and make each elemental primal we summon generate aetherflow stacks and further ruin charges. Would make aetherflow generation fit into the kit better at the very least.


On the note of dots, while I never liked them on summoner, I don't doubt they could have showhorned them in somehow if they really want to. My pet theory is that given FF14 is lacking in ANY classes that use a hammer/mace (which is kind of weird) that they took the dots so they can give them to a green mage class later.

I really like the idea of summons generating Aetherflow stacks, maybe they could even just have the demi phases generate them in case they want to limit the availability of them, having every summon generate them would mean there would never be a time we are without them given how fast we cycle through them.