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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenitey View Post
    lol No it isnt... unless the people are sleeping at the party. XD Most of these full bought wards arent USED at all. How do I know? Well I don't for ALL but on one a friend of mine owns a house in a ward that has only 3 other user houses the rest are all fc, and we have been there hours at a time and no one uses them. Seriously unless you are just a troll trying to argue why would a WHOLE ward be necessary to own?
    What makes you so certain they are not used at all? I'm fairly certain your friends aren't on a stakeout watching all of those houses 24/7 every day of the year. That those houses are retained during periods when demolition is not suspended indicates they're getting used in some way. If they weren't they'd be getting demolished.

    A lot of houses are purchased solely for workshop access. The player goes in and goes straight to the workshop then leaves via teleport or log out. It could be very easy to miss the 5 seconds they're standing outside their house. SE requiring FCs to own a house for workshop access is another issue but it doesn't change that otherwise apparently empty houses are being used for that purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What makes you so certain they are not used at all? I'm fairly certain your friends aren't on a stakeout watching all of those houses 24/7 every day of the year. That those houses are retained during periods when demolition is not suspended indicates they're getting used in some way. If they weren't they'd be getting demolished.

    A lot of houses are purchased solely for workshop access. The player goes in and goes straight to the workshop then leaves via teleport or log out. It could be very easy to miss the 5 seconds they're standing outside their house. SE requiring FCs to own a house for workshop access is another issue but it doesn't change that otherwise apparently empty houses are being used for that purpose.
    I'll take the Spriggan example in Goblet and now spreading in Mist (via a RMT service no less but that's another topic and I can't link anything here) :

    You have one single individual, who's clearly rich, has multiple upon multiple characters and accounts. Owning the 2 divisions in a Goblet ward, every single plot. Spreading even now in other wards, Mist and probably other locations I didn't bothered to look at.
    That individual likes to present her actions as : I like to decorate. Which is fine, but this is really really pushing it in a market that has extremely low offers and massive demands. All this happens, mostly because that person has the wallet for it and why SE is not going to take any action. All the person has to do, is have a notebook/excel file and visit each house like every week-end to refresh the timers. Virtual money or fees is nothing to them, let alone having multiple subs on multiple accounts.

    We had a similar case in WoW with multiboxing and abuses, for once (granted it took ages), Blizzard nuked it. Only good deed they've done in recent memory.

    And you know what's funny ? Hardly any visitors to these places. Just a few screenshots for Instagram/Twitter and Discord (where it's specified no RMT but you dwell in it, hypocrisy at it's finest). I just finished decorating my garden and I've already had people checking it out. These plot hoarders either do it for RMT or selfish reasons (in my example, someone with a deep wallet and wanting multiple houses to decorate and showcase on social media).
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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    I'll take the Spriggan example in Goblet and now spreading in Mist (via a RMT service no less but that's another topic and I can't link anything here) :

    You have one single individual, who's clearly rich, has multiple upon multiple characters and accounts. Owning the 2 divisions in a Goblet ward, every single plot. Spreading even now in other wards, Mist and probably other locations I didn't bothered to look at.
    That individual likes to present her actions as : I like to decorate. Which is fine, but this is really really pushing it in a market that has extremely low offers and massive demands. All this happens, mostly because that person has the wallet for it and why SE is not going to take any action. All the person has to do, is have a notebook/excel file and visit each house like every week-end to refresh the timers. Virtual money or fees is nothing to them, let alone having multiple subs on multiple accounts.

    We had a similar case in WoW with multiboxing and abuses, for once (granted it took ages), Blizzard nuked it. Only good deed they've done in recent memory.

    And you know what's funny ? Hardly any visitors to these places. Just a few screenshots for Instagram/Twitter and Discord (where it's specified no RMT but you dwell in it, hypocrisy at it's finest). I just finished decorating my garden and I've already had people checking it out. These plot hoarders either do it for RMT or selfish reasons (in my example, someone with a deep wallet and wanting multiple houses to decorate and showcase on social media).
    Oh, I don't dispute that a lot of the multiple plot ownership is due to greed or other reasons not healthy for content that has a limit on participation.

    I was just making the point that someone not seeing a house being used doesn't automatically mean the house is not getting used. In your examples, those houses are getting used even if not for reasons that other players agree are good reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    I'll take the Spriggan example in Goblet and now spreading in Mist (via a RMT service no less but that's another topic and I can't link anything here) :

    You have one single individual, who's clearly rich, has multiple upon multiple characters and accounts. Owning the 2 divisions in a Goblet ward, every single plot. Spreading even now in other wards, Mist and probably other locations I didn't bothered to look at.
    That individual likes to present her actions as : I like to decorate. Which is fine, but this is really really pushing it in a market that has extremely low offers and massive demands. All this happens, mostly because that person has the wallet for it and why SE is not going to take any action. All the person has to do, is have a notebook/excel file and visit each house like every week-end to refresh the timers. Virtual money or fees is nothing to them, let alone having multiple subs on multiple accounts.

    We had a similar case in WoW with multiboxing and abuses, for once (granted it took ages), Blizzard nuked it. Only good deed they've done in recent memory.

    And you know what's funny ? Hardly any visitors to these places. Just a few screenshots for Instagram/Twitter and Discord (where it's specified no RMT but you dwell in it, hypocrisy at it's finest). I just finished decorating my garden and I've already had people checking it out. These plot hoarders either do it for RMT or selfish reasons (in my example, someone with a deep wallet and wanting multiple houses to decorate and showcase on social media).
    Wouldnt even bet on RMT. Yeah sure there a few who just want to get a quick buck.

    Most Multiowners simply dont know what else to do with their wealth. If you played FFXIV long enough (and I'm not talking about 24/7 or patchday crafting or playing) just playing the game it would be easy as nowhere else in any other MMO to accumulate a decent wealth. And if you didnt flush it down for glamour or for cute catgirls in Limsa a few hundred million gil on the side is no curiosity ingame after a few years of playing. What else can they spend their gil on? The cheap 25 or 50 Million Mounts? They dont serve of a Gilsink for rich Players. Not even close.

    Its just to easy to go to a random Houseowner and asking them "Here xx Million. Mind to sell your FC/House"? And funny thing is you dont want to know how often you get the answer "Sure why not" because they want to get rid of the burden to keep a sub for the house, werent invested enough to begin with etc.

    And in the case of the certain Spriggan Ward. No one gave a fuck for this server for month or didnt even spend a second for a thought about a world transfer. Those people simply have no right to be offended because they didnt took the opportunity to do the same. So as long the TOS or the General Housing Rules isnt violated we are not allowed to prented how others play Final Fantasy. And if they want to pay for more then one account we should let them. Square would be stupid to cut off income. If we like it or not.
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    Alice Lucis'caelum
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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    I'll take the Spriggan example in Goblet and now spreading in Mist (via a RMT service no less but that's another topic and I can't link anything here)
    Talk about living rent free. I'd like to see your so-called claim I RMT when it was actually a former acquaintance that tried to impersonate me on that RMT site as petty revenge because she was banned for being discovered to RMT houses on there. (Yes I have screenshots of this.) Also, when you're running as many subs as I am, it's literally a ripoff to actually RMT.

    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    And you know what's funny ? Hardly any visitors to these places.
    Nope. I run an active FC there who likes the neighborhood and we hold public events and parties for everyone. We have a nice community here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    I'll take the Spriggan example in Goblet and now spreading in Mist (via a RMT service no less but that's another topic and I can't link anything here)
    There was no RMT involved with this individual. Whatever opinions people may have, those sorts of accusations should be made with caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Don't you have something better to do with your life?