Concrete proof finally provided that the 2002 error has NOTHING is server side issue

[Bertpocalypse]

Oh my oh my! What a useful and constructive post detailing how the aforementioned google doc is completely and utterly incorrect.

i was going more for the conjecture theme tbh.

i wont deny there are problems - i don't think the intended message from the response regarding packet loss exacerbating issues with the lobby server was "blaming it all on macdonalds wifi - its not our fault at all".

i can never know how imperfect the login process is because i'm not sitting on the lobby/game/whatever servers code. its apparent in the document that neither is the author. there are alot more moving parts than just "highfives" to the lobby - the googledoc had me until it started making baseless opinions in this regard using a couple fin packets to prove the client wants a refresh.

my comment is more for the people buying into a conspiracy that SE is purposely sabotaging its own game while gaslighting its users.

[MiaShino]

i was going more for the conjecture theme tbh.

i wont deny there are problems - i don't think the intended message from the response regarding packet loss exacerbating issues with the lobby server was "blaming it all on macdonalds wifi - its not our fault at all".

Ohhh aye, that is not what I got from Yoshi P's posts either.

i can never know how imperfect the login process is because i'm not sitting on the lobby/game/whatever servers code. its apparent in the document that neither is the author. there are alot more moving parts than just "highfives" to the lobby - the googledoc had me until it started making baseless opinions in this regard using a couple fin packets to prove the client wants a refresh.

It appears to be issue that primarily exists on the server end though can manifest on our end too. Attempting figuring out how their servers actually operate is umm, well it is not worth it. Endlessly sniffing packets back during the WoW emulator days was some of the most grueling and tiresome work I have ever ever done. The best we could do was "approximate" their back end stuffs and it was hell.

my comment is more for the people buying into a conspiracy that SE is purposely sabotaging its own game while gaslighting its users.

Yup yup, I can agree with this. I see what is occurring more as general incompetence than grand conspiracy myself, which is staggeringly common in the field of system administration. Many apologies if I misunderstood your intent!

Reading Yoshi's post reads more as if he is suggesting to the user that they eliminate anything they can on their end so not to wait in more queues. It does not help that his language is JP and it doth not translate well to English.