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    I was defending SE early on but this is shameful especially since Yoshi-P has been going on record blaming consumers internet connection.

    I've been with the game since 1.0 and have seen ups and downs but haven't seen Yoshi-P straight up misdirect like this. I'm also concerned that Square-Enix's angle seems to be to just pray the issue goes away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    I was defending SE early on but this is shameful especially since Yoshi-P has been going on record blaming consumers internet connection.

    I've been with the game since 1.0 and have seen ups and downs but haven't seen Yoshi-P straight up misdirect like this. I'm also concerned that Square-Enix's angle seems to be to just pray the issue goes away.
    It may very well be the user's internet and not them. I'm sure they know better about the situation than we do. However, I don't think that people should lose their session entirely (auto-retry for example) but we don't really know how things work and it could potentially cause severe desync and other network related issues. They have at least allowed people to log back in and resume their queue but it doesn't always work yet. To be honest, these things aren't easy to understand or fix and it's easier to be an armchair developer and think "all they need to do is this" to fix it but the reality is always going to be complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    I was defending SE early on but this is shameful especially since Yoshi-P has been going on record blaming consumers internet connection.
    I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here and assume that he was wrong as opposed to lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here and assume that he was wrong as opposed to lying.
    Additional consideration: player load has literally never been this high. Could as easily be a case of "we never knew this was a problem because it's never come up before."

    I'd feel more confident in this assumption if they were to address it with intent to fix, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Additional consideration: player load has literally never been this high. Could as easily be a case of "we never knew this was a problem because it's never come up before."

    I'd feel more confident in this assumption if they were to address it with intent to fix, tho.
    We get the exact same 5006 and 2002 errors every expansion. They've closed the client instead of reconnecting every time. The queue itself has never been this bad before, but the errors and the bad software design have always been there.

    They only feel like they have to respond to it because the interest is so high that they're getting killed in the media about it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    We get the exact same 5006 and 2002 errors every expansion. They've closed the client instead of reconnecting every time. The queue itself has never been this bad before, but the errors and the bad software design have always been there.

    They only feel like they have to respond to it because the interest is so high that they're getting killed in the media about it this time.
    Perhaps a more accurate correction of my assumption would be along the lines of "the problem has never persisted long enough to warrant investigation/fixing."

    But yes, either way it's all the same. Kinda surprised they're not giving more updates on the situation, just to at least sound like they're doing something or making progress somewhere. Even if it's just "far as we can tell, everything's running as intended."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Perhaps a more accurate correction of my assumption would be along the lines of "the problem has never persisted long enough to warrant investigation/fixing."

    But yes, either way it's all the same. Kinda surprised they're not giving more updates on the situation, just to at least sound like they're doing something or making progress somewhere. Even if it's just "far as we can tell, everything's running as intended."
    Actually, that is a more fair angle. Many people pointed out when we had problems the previous times that they probably don't want to spend time figuring out how to fix them because they'd all be gone in a week or two. It's just annoying that if they had paid them attention when they were brought up in the past we wouldn't be having nearly the same level of frustration now that it's also really busy.
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