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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    So the ones wanting people to review bomb the game, comparing IT to pharmaceutical, and wanting to report bomb somebody who disagrees with them are NOT looking ridiculous?
    Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying don't defend mediocrity. Theres enough of that going on in the real world and it never does anyone any favors.
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    Brennus Al'vere
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    OP, you're right, and many share your frustrations. I too am trying to figure out what to do with the game at this point. I've only been able to play because my work does not require a 9-5 schedule, but the long queues, the repeated 2002 errors, being kicked back to the end of the line, all of that has taken its toll. It's 9 PM my time now, on a Sunday evening, so far I've been able to stay logged in only for 40 minutes or so, again after a long, long wait starting from early afternoon today.

    I might do what others have recommended here: unsub for a month or so, until the queues have subsided, the drop-off errors fixed. It's a shame. I might resub to WoW during that time, and I cringe at the thought. But I'll have to do something, it's just too frustrating to continue hoping day after day that FF14 will get better, and that I can access the content I've paid for fair and square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Okay...like what are they not doing? What specifically in your expertise in IT is it that they aren't doing that is definitely within their grasp?
    Based on what we've learned about the queue system, its design needed to be fundamentally revisited in anticipation of being bombarded with completely unprecedented numbers of users.

    A large portion of what is frustrating people is a software problem which is actually strictly within SE's domain to fix. The problem is that it is something that may need time to address, and should have been fixed well ahead of time, rather than SE taking a gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Unsubbing for a month or so is likely a good move for many people.
    To miss the end game for 6.0 and 6.1? Ok
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    To miss the end game for 6.0 and 6.1? Ok
    Unsubbing for a month wouldn’t cause you to miss 6.1. That won’t come out until late March/early April at the earliest.

    That said, it’s sad that this is a ponderable solution. I’m curious how long these queues are going to last. I wonder how they’ll be when Pandaemonium normal mode drops…
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying don't defend mediocrity. Theres enough of that going on in the real world and it never does anyone any favors.
    Wasn't putting words in your mouth, just pointing out that the people being ridiculous the most seem to be the ones most outraged...assuming they're not trolling (it can hard to be tell right now).
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    JP servers are free from congestion even during peak hour maybe 15m waiting. Not saying this is the best solution right now but maybe worth giving it a thought?

    Only if we have the DC visit now...
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    As a so-called "white knight" who has chided other complaints that were basically just cringey whining, I have to say I completely support this post. It is clear, honest, based, mature, and understandable. This has been a bad situation for us all, and I don't blame you for wanting to unsub. Peak hours are peak hours for a reason, and most of us don't have a choice but to try and play during that time. The current login queue is unreasonable, and I am with you that even if I still had time after all that wait I just emotionally might be so soured on the game that I wouldn't want to anymore.
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 12-13-2021 at 02:49 PM.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    I dont think you white knights are capable of understanding the simple fact that this all could have been diverted and eased long before ew. People have paid for a service they are not getting and shouldn't have to charge their entire lives based on the mistakes of a company who promised and didn't deliver. The only people who look ridiculous in these threads are the ones yelling at people for not accepting completely unacceptable standards and aren't praying to the yoshi shrine they built in their bedroom.
    I keep hearing the same talking points, but not actually pinpointing the actual issue. Just a bunch of assumptions. I don't think that's White Knighting. I ASKED with their experience since the assumption was "they did nothing" what is it exactly they should have done since now everyone's some kind of expert as to what's going on. I mean the US government can't even figure out how to fix the supply lines for the logistics industry at the moment and neither can the companies knee deep in the mess of distributing the cargo.

    So you will have to excuse me while I'm a bit irritated over the same arguments and not a lot of well researched solutions to the matter. I mean right now another post is about ONE guy's google docs with admitted "amateur" investigation. Not a team of people looking into the matter nor did he exactly have backup parties researching it and we take him for his word.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Based on what we've learned about the queue system, its design needed to be fundamentally revisited in anticipation of being bombarded with completely unprecedented numbers of users.

    A large portion of what is frustrating people is a software problem which is actually strictly within SE's domain to fix. The problem is that it is something that may need time to address, and should have been fixed well ahead of time, rather than SE taking a gamble.
    I know the client launcher is a bit outdated - it's using Internet Explorer still for PC. However, that's not for me to make the logical leap as to why it's quitting. Since PS4/PS5 is obviously NOT using Windows and IE. So it's not the same software on different platforms. For example the person who made the reddit post - was this tested on PC AND PS4 (and haha Mac?).

    I do think a change in how it authenticates so that you don't have to restart the client is something to definitely be investigated, but probably didn't have the foresight or the data to work with until now. That still is some time to fix. They already had to delay it for two weeks as is. I am just not assuming it's not being looked into or that they're doing "nothing"
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 12-13-2021 at 03:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysius View Post
    JP servers are free from congestion even during peak hour maybe 15m waiting. Not saying this is the best solution right now but maybe worth giving it a thought?

    Only if we have the DC visit now...
    This is the only way I have been able to play much at all. Fortunately I already had a character on a JP server that is only a little lower lvl than the one I am posting on. It is still annoying though as I want to be playing on my main.
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