This is getting ridiculous. (Endwalker MSQ and post MSQ spoilers)

[KizuyaKatogami]

So, it's been a thing for a very long time now where lots of dungeon gear gets reused in some way. Either dungeons reuse gear from other places or what have you. However, i had assumed with all the recent money making and player influx SE has had, we'd be seeing improvements on this, however it seems to have gotten beyond worse. The Tower of zot and Ktisis dungeons both reuse gear, but not only that, Ktisis reused gear and STILL didn't even make it dyable. Not only that either, but the 89 dungeon doesn't even give left side gear, only right side, which you could argue is because of the af gear but still, that's an entire gear set missing. I just finally did the two expert dungeons today and realized they also reused an entire music theme as the main theme for the place. Shouldn't we be seeing upgrades as each expansion goes on and not downgrades? The fact we're 4 expansions in and still don't have dyable dungeon gear is pretty appalling by itself but reusing it and not even making it dyable is beyond bad. Not to mention both the Sage and Reaper starter gear can't even be dyed, at least to my knowledge. Their level 70 and 80 af are the exact same and can't be dyed.

[FrogDog]

I was really taken aback by the amount of reused gear we got this time around.

Dungeon-wise it's the same as ShB as far as new sets go. Two new gear models, but we got one less dungeon with gear drops like you mentioned. But for crafted gear across DoW/DoM/DoH/DoL there is only one new set of gear and it's only for gatherers iirc. None of the gear is role swapped and it was all dyable before too so it's literally just them giving us the same thing.

They seem especially fond of giving us Shire gear too, as it's the third time we've gotten the Shire set.

[RWBYrose]

I think you all are forgetting that part of the work they did on the expansion was during this pandemic, and I'm pretty sure that created a host of issues for them. I think we're pretty lucky to receive what we got -- Great story, great music, great dungeons, and trials...

edited to add: 2 fantastic new classes and the male viera/with female hrothgar coming in the next patch

[DrFlesh]

"I think we're pretty lucky to receive what we got"

stop repeating this pls, they are reusing assets since hw, the covid excuse doesn't work here

[Rongway]

"I think we're pretty lucky to receive what we got"

stop repeating this pls, they are reusing assets since hw, the covid excuse doesn't work here

If they've needed to reuse assets since HW what makes you think they would have the time and resources to do more work during the pandemic?

[Atamis]

I too was disappointed. I don't mind recolors or reusing gear that was previously undyable. But when they release an old set without making it dyable, with the same color scheme, and its not rotated from another class? The Ktisis caster set atleast was identical(I didn't get the chest to verify that piece). The Zot set was already dyable and the dye channel removes the purple anyway defeating the purpose. The didn't even bother to make the hats work with Viera and Hrothgar... Then not one, but three accessory dungeons in a row? I get it, we got the AF gear at 89, but you are assuming everyone likes the AF gear looks, if you didn't this was just a gauntlet of disappointment.

The only dungeon I found remotely challenging was the Dead Ends and so this dungeon tier has been sad so far. The Thavnair and Garlamald sets can only carry them so far.

[Ransu]

Why would they go out of their way to make unique gear for mid level dungeons? Gear that most people wont equip because they have better gear or will replace in 2 levels? Doubly so given that most people stick with whatever glamours they have.

[Atamis]

Why would they go out of their way to make unique gear for mid level dungeons? Gear that most people wont equip because they have better gear or will replace in 2 levels? Doubly so given that most people stick with whatever glamours they have.

Because its become the norm since ARR? The dungeon sets have become some of the best sets for glamour. Obviously heavily depending on taste. (or lack thereof)
Just because you only wear your glamour and never change doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Acidblood]

Honestly, between Dungeons being so easy (even in 520 gear) and being handed the AF gear as part of the MSQ, Dungeon (and quest) gear felt entirely pointless this time round... Yes, new glams are always nice, but I would rather they put their efforts into gear worth having.

[Rhysati]

Because its become the norm since ARR? The dungeon sets have become some of the best sets for glamour. Obviously heavily depending on taste. (or lack thereof)
Just because you only wear your glamour and never change doesn't mean everyone else does.

100% in agreement on this. My main reason for doing content in this game is glamours. If I can't get something cool to wear from it, I'm probably not doing it. So this expansion is falling very flat for me.