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  1. #41
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Cap for playing should be no more than 8 hours and then you get a 8 hour cooldown before you can play again. If it picks up no movement of your character for 30 minutes it starts a 30 second logout that you have to cancel if don't want to logout.
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  2. #42
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    Roda's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Roda Tirhaalo
    World
    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Honestly, when this was a problem in SB, periodic server reboots solved the queue problems instantly.
    It was annoying for about a week, and then people realized the fear of the queue was the cause of the queue.
    (3)
    ~sigh~

  3. #43
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    Viirin's Avatar
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    Viirin Kuruvar
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Doesn't discord show that if you are just at the movie screen, before logging in? I don't tell people what i am playing, so am not 100% sure, but I think it's just if the client is active. Doesn't mean they are online. So it's possible that they play, log out and sit at char selection until they want to play again. That they are online at any particular minute isn't a guaranteed 2 days.
    Yeah Discord shows you as playing if the client is open - it can't tell the difference because all it's doing is looking at the processes running on your computer. So it is a terrible metric to go by for how long someone has been logged in, because you could login, do nothing, get kicked by the AFK timer 30 minutes later, and then not touch your computer for a week and if nothing caused the game client to crash in that time Discord would say you'd been playing for a week.


    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    It's really a no brainer how to fix AFK cheaters, aside from bans but we don't have the GMs for that.

    Put a hard cap to how long you can stay continually logged in at 12 hours, whether you are moving, crafting, watching a cutscene, ERPing or bot farming. You hit the 12 hour continual logged in mark and BOOM, boot and you get a 12 hour cooldown in which you can't queue again.

    If the devs haven't done this already is because they can't be more obvious to how little they care about the queue situation.
    Are you suggesting there is no one that is legitimately playing for over 12 hours in a day? Does any MMO limit daily playtime? Such a limit would not go over well.


    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Cap for playing should be no more than 8 hours and then you get a 8 hour cooldown before you can play again. If it picks up no movement of your character for 30 minutes it starts a 30 second logout that you have to cancel if don't want to logout.
    It's probably not likely to help as much as you think. Most everyone, including those dodging the AFK timer, are going to be playing during the prime hours anyway, so people are basically going to all be trying to get on during the same 8-12 hour window still. I suppose anyone who is actually leaving their computer unattended with some afk dodging measure in place for multiple days without ever playing during the day would be taken out of the equation by this, but that has to be the extreme minority.
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    Last edited by Viirin; 12-13-2021 at 12:16 PM.

  4. #44
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts View Post
    Did you at least contact them before you start making accusations? The wording in your post strongly suggests you do not. Some "friend".
    "I know people don't HAVE TO reply to you, but I still think most people will at least give you at least minor acknowledgement if you say hi. Usually the people I suspect are using these third party tools are.. probably doing so, because I have never got any reply from the people I suspected."

    Did you even read. I conveyed that I tried to send a couple private messages first.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    "I know people don't HAVE TO reply to you, but I still think most people will at least give you at least minor acknowledgement if you say hi. Usually the people I suspect are using these third party tools are.. probably doing so, because I have never got any reply from the people I suspected."

    Did you even read. I conveyed that I tried to send a couple private messages first.
    I would ignore a random "hi", and I would blacklist someone who repeatedly sent it after no response.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  6. #46
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    Naridar's Avatar
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    Salazar Malamund
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I have been reporting them under cheating when I see them, but only after messaging them a couple of times during the evening or day to see if they are actually there. I know people don't HAVE TO reply to you, but I still think most people will at least give you at least minor acknowledgement if you say hi. Usually the people I suspect are using these third party tools are.. probably doing so, because I have never got any reply from the people I suspected.

    Some people on my friend list try to hide it by going into the inn, house, or a private apartment. They usually restrict all guess access as if we can't see what they are doing when they go "invisible" for 7+ hours a day.

    The key things to look for are:

    - AFK for SEVERAL hours in the same place.
    - Busy icon
    - Hiding the AFK icon
    - In apartment, house, or private chambers
    - No guest access in apartment, house, or private chambers
    - No Teleport for friends in apartment, house, or private chambers
    - Some people use the same emote all day in place. That simply isn't practical for the equivalent of an entire work day if someone is actively playing. The average player is going to change spots at least a few times in that period.
    - Crowd blending. Some of these people will look for busy crowds and hide the AFK icon to blend in. I'm not fooled.
    - Not replying whatsoever in any form. It's possible someone doesn't have a keyboard, because sometimes I swivel my TV around to my bed in order to play when I'm not feeling well, but its not hard to to at least use the auto translation feature. They have phrases for letting people know that you don't have a keyboard on you at the moment. You can also type a sentence with a controller, but it isn't fun.
    Just a friendly warning that I'd report you or anyone else for stalking, should I notice you trying to play detective on me or repeatedly PM me when I'm not responding or attempt to teleport to my inn room/Squadron barracks/House without my express consent.
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  7. #47
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 86
    For those who are curious, the GMs will supposedly give you a free vacation for using a keyboard macro or something similar to idle.

    Just had a friend come screaming onto our discord claiming he got one for spamming peloton overnight and now can't play for a few days.
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  8. #48
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    For those who are curious, the GMs will supposedly give you a free vacation for using a keyboard macro or something similar to idle.

    Just had a friend come screaming onto our discord claiming he got one for spamming peloton overnight and now can't play for a few days.
    With how little SE has done to combat bots in the past this sounds entirely made up.
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  9. #49
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    Xrystofer's Avatar
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    Valerial Snowfall
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    Phantom
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naridar View Post
    Just a friendly warning that I'd report you or anyone else for stalking, should I notice you trying to play detective on me or repeatedly PM me when I'm not responding or attempt to teleport to my inn room/Squadron barracks/House without my express consent.
    And you will receive a ban for troll reporting if you did that.
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  10. #50
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    technole's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    With how little SE has done to combat bots in the past this sounds entirely made up.
    Spamming skills in non-combat areas was always bannable behavior, just like the WHM that thought it was okay to spam Holy in Limsa.
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