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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I can't get behind this. I don't buy the "for your own good" line coming from a position of authority.

    That just leads to unnecessary and ineffective garbage rules, regulations and laws.

    See: cigarette taxes and sugar taxes.
    I agree only because of the precedent it sets. I think most of us would agree that someone doing a 24 hour gaming session needs to get some sleep, but if you say you can't do it for 24 hours, what's next? Cutoff at 12 hours? 8 hours? 5 hours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    I agree only because of the precedent it sets. I think most of us would agree that someone doing a 24 hour gaming session needs to get some sleep, but if you say you can't do it for 24 hours, what's next? Cutoff at 12 hours? 8 hours? 5 hours?
    There should be a hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos12 View Post
    There should be a hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.
    Great. So when a successful MMO like FFXIV does it, "playtime cap" becomes the new goto answer for any company that doesn't want to or can't upgrade its servers. It'll become the new lootbox. That's why I don't want it to happen. Better to suffer through a few months of this garbage than to negatively affect the entire MMO industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Great. So when a successful MMO like FFXIV does it, "playtime cap" becomes the new goto answer for any company that doesn't want to or can't upgrade its servers. It'll become the new lootbox. That's why I don't want it to happen. Better to suffer through a few months of this garbage than to negatively affect the entire MMO industry.
    Yes. Until these companies can properly address those using anti AFK tools to stay logged in for days. Some of the people in these forums have even boasted about hiding in homes and doing other things to stay logged in and avoid the que when they are not actually playing the game. My beef is only with those staying online when we all fully know they are AFK. I completely understand waiting in long que times for access during peak time. If you are in the game playing and enjoying what i am sure is an amazing story then that is awesome. Enjoy! But i rather wait in a long que knowing that every single person in game is actually playing the game and not using anti AFK tools to stay logged on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    But 8 am is when balmung has no queue at all.
    And a 15k queue that moves is much more preferable to a 4k queue that doesnt.
    Not when it's been proven the Lobby Server simply cannot handle it. I suspect they're afraid queues may actually get worse for people unable to log in before peak hours because the Lobby Server will be utterly flooded with requests to join the second the servers come back.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Quite a few people did 48 for their "saint" titles. Yeah, some were bots, but not all.
    Saint title?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Saint title?
    The Ishgard Restoration had three 'seasons'; the people with the top 100 scores on every crafter and gatherer per server got a 'Beata of the Firmament' or 'Beatus of the Firmament' title, and the top 10 in each got a 'Saint of the Firmament' title. Some of the folks who went for the Saint title were... a little bit crazy. Like "stayed on gathering and crafting for multiple days" crazy.

    (Beata/Beatus wasn't hard to do, but the Saint title got... hotly contested towards the close of each season.)
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    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Doesn't discord show that if you are just at the movie screen, before logging in? I don't tell people what i am playing, so am not 100% sure, but I think it's just if the client is active. Doesn't mean they are online. So it's possible that they play, log out and sit at char selection until they want to play again. That they are online at any particular minute isn't a guaranteed 2 days.
    Does it if you have the launcher open too i think.
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    How do you know they've been online for 48 hours?

    Are you just making assumptions because they're on whenever you are? Maybe they took time off work to play and are simply on more than you are. They could very well be logging off at normal times and you just don't know it.

    I wouldn't make false reports on something you can't prove.

    Hunches and guesses a aren't good ways to conduct yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythos12 View Post
    There should be hatsa hard cap for any expansion release only until que gets under control. There are people that are literally logged into the game for days hiding in house doing nothing while they sleep or do real world things so they don't get in que which ruins the game for the thousands of other paying players that have not been able to access the game since Endwalker launch. SE taking in all this money from the expansion knowing full well they can not deliver on the product. That is wrong.
    No.

    Terms of service do not guarantee server availability or playtime capability.

    Whats wrong is people trying to get SE to regulate FFXIV like China.
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