Tank healing is to high

[Ashua]

Not sure if Square/Enix is intending this to go into Savage mode as is but if the last two weeks of the expansion are of any indication the tank healing is way higher than it should be. Seeing all the numbers tanks can put out in self-healing from 10k heals to 30-40k burst heals is a tad silly. They are officially stronger healers than the classes meant to heal. We need a balance patch before the real raiding begins or this might be the most ridiculous game anyone can take seriously that wants to have a progressive raiding core to go with.


The game has a lottof issues right now with balance and cheating and I would not be against delaying the Savage raids to take care of rotation/movement bots and programs that tell you where to go and what mechanics are about to happen. That along with the balance of tanks and healers right now is also a huge consideration to me.

[Liam_Harper]

Tank sustainability is a good thing. The problem is we don't have the damage intake to match it.

Having a strong toolkit that rewards you for using it well is more interesting than standing there doing 1, 2, 3 endlessly while the healers throw you an oGCD occasionally. But if bosses just tickle you, there's no purpose for those self-heals. That's the problem.

[Kalaam]

Would be nice that this sustain is put to contribution.
Though if it was, DRK would be unusable lol, so maybe after it got buffed in that department.

[Duskane]

glad tbh too many times healer die with no raise caster and its over but with GNB now you can easily sustain yourself and 1-2 DPS to push through in dungeon bosses

[Ashua]

glad tbh too many times healer die with no raise caster and its over but with GNB now you can easily sustain yourself and 1-2 DPS to push through in dungeon bosses

And that sort of invalidates the healer. Honestly, the queue requiring a green role in order for the dungeon finder to click into play is the only reason a healer is required. The game was designed with the triality of modern-day MMO's and I think it is a disservice to basically invalidate a third of the players who enjoy that aspect. So now in order to get my healing jollies on I have to also be a tank? If two DPS and a tank can tackle a boss it is poor game design. Either fix it or rework the game without requiring healers to be a role.

Tank sustainability is a good thing. The problem is we don't have the damage intake to match it.

Having a strong toolkit that rewards you for using it well is more interesting than standing there doing 1, 2, 3 endlessly while the healers throw you an oGCD occasionally. But if bosses just tickle you, there's no purpose for those self-heals. That's the problem.

And it's worse for healers. Tank sustainability should be the healer and not the tank. You have a 1-2-3 combo but I have a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 combo for 99.9% of whatever I do. The bosses do more than tickle. Tanks can burst heal better than current healers is the problem. 10x for warriors but literally similar for all but the Dark Knight.

[Valknut]

Just que with only DRKs then, they don't have any self healing that is worth a damn anyway.

[Mekhana]

DRK Pulls without healer: "I guess I'm dead."

DRK pulls without healer and uses LD: "Roses are red, violets are blue. Omae wa mou Shindeiru."

[Lyth]

They've been trying to make tanking more comfy for years. But the more accessible you make the role, the less of an impact that it has.

[Serpent1ng]

I really think they should remove the healing from Holy Sheltron, Heart of Corundum, and maybe reduce it a bit for Bloodwhetting. Tanks being able to sustain both themselves and other dps through entire boss fights without a healer is silly.

It'd also help bring the other tanks closer in parity sustain wise with DRK, which feels way squishier now, compared to the rest.

[Navnav]

Nah bruh...

You know how good it feels to drop to 50% and heal myself to full with one overpower lmfao. Broski, I need that in my life. Honestly WAR healing so bonkers I genuinely forget I have Thrill and EQ, it's a madness.

BTW how good is Holy Sheltron and Heart of Corundum? I heard Corundums heal is kinda fat. Does the PLD aoe spell heal off every target like bloodwhetting or is it just the single heal?