The waiting times are horrible for any working adult

[Rei_Kagene]

Hello everyone,

I'm rather certain this has already been said by others, since it's a huge problem, but I wanted to tell about my own experience with the release of the Expansion as well as the Early Access.

For starters, I tried to play every day, but wasn't successful very often.

My normal workday starts at 7:30am and ends at about 4:30pm.
Normally I get home by 5pm, make something to eat, check my private mails and do chores etc. At this point, the first thing I do is to open up FF14 and log in, since the Queue is always at 4k+ people during the time I get home, which means 4-5 hours waiting time.
So, on my average workday, I get about enough time to do my Roulettes, and then it's already 11pm and I need to go to bed, progression is the main quests (or god forbid side Quests) is an absolute no-go.

Then, during weekends it looks better. In the morning, until about noon, the login is basically instant (to maybe half an hour).
So then I was finally able to get some Story progression and an actual look at Endwalker content. However, I don't have time to stay at the PC the whole day and grocery shopping takes longer than half an hour, so at some point I have to get kicked out for inactivity. Yesterday, that was for example the case at 3-4pm, where I went grocery shopping. After coming back, and logging back in, I was in a queue of over 5k people, that took over 6 HOURS for me to get back in to the game. So that was basically it for the day.

Today I was busy the whole morning and, thanks to an Error during the queue, I got thrown out at some point. After logging back in at 2pm (half an hour ago) I was placed at 3.5k in queue. So I guess I hardly get to play today again.

Thing is, I bought "Playtime Cards", not "Queue waiting time Cards"
I simply can't understand how in todays time the queues can be longer than maybe half an hour, and the compensation of 7 days of playtime, is a joke, considering that it hasn't gotten any better at all.

My point is, when you are an adult, working throughout half the day, and get back home, only to have to spend in a queue the whole time, so you get maybe 1 hour of playtime out of it... That's just horrible.
I couldn't even imagine how much worse it'd be if I also had a child. Probably wouldn't have seen an inch of Endwalker content.

I would have much rather kept playing Shadowbringers and not have Endwalker at all, if it means that I could actually play the game.

[Violet_Galaxy]

That really sucks.

[Lanadra]

So... let me say what's already been said over a dozen times as well.. you realize there are very real problems in the world right now that are directly responsible for why Yoshi P and team couldn't prevent this, despite trying to for the last 7 or so months, right?

Yes, your frustrations, all of our frustrations, are entirely valid. But just like many others, you're entirely flying by just why the queue times are what they are.

[Darkobra]

It sucks but it was always to be expected. This is every expansion in every online game ever.

People can't log in, people make threads about not being able to log in, big fights start in forums, nothing changes. I'm not even surprised at your surprise.

[AdamChattaway]

booked 3.5 weeks off work ALL my holidays to play endwalker, 2 of those wer wasted fromt he 2 week delay, other week wasted because i can't log in. they messed up big time and don't anyone dare defend them. they should and could have upgraded the EU servers 2 years ago but they didnt, they could have made more eu servers 2 years ago but they didnt, EU has 13.

I've been sat in queue ALL DAY and now just got the 2002 error and now get that every launch so now i can't log back in and when i can will be in a 10k queue and that's my last day of holiday off work gone GG F GG THANK YOU LOADS!!!!! NOW I WORK TOMORROW NOW I WILL FINISH WORK AT 7PM EVERY DAY AND NEVER GET TO PLAY.

[Rei_Kagene]

So... let me say what's already been said over a dozen times as well.. you realize there are very real problems in the world right now that are directly responsible for why Yoshi P and team couldn't prevent this, despite trying to for the last 7 or so months, right?

Yes, your frustrations, all of our frustrations, are entirely valid. But just like many others, you're entirely flying by just why the queue times are what they are.

Way to be condescending for no reason.
Of course I am aware, as just about everyone is.

That still doesn't justify this. It doesn't suddenly make it okay.
If you buy concert tickets and don't get let in because of the "current situation" and miss the concert without getting your money back, you'd probably still see it as reasonable for it is the fault of the "currect situation" and you can't blame the orgainzers at all?

FF14 isn't an Indie game, and it has gained an insane amount of tracktion over the last half a year, along with that, a HUGE amount of inactive players will of course come back when Endwalker drops, so this was really to be expected from a mile away.
You are entirely flying by that this "current situation" isn't an excuse for everything.

[AdamChattaway]

Way to be condescending for no reason.
Of course I am aware, as just about everyone is.

That still doesn't justify this. It doesn't suddenly make it okay.
If you buy concert tickets and don't get let in because of the "current situation" and miss the concert without getting your money back, you'd probably still see it as reasonable for it is the fault of the "currect situation" and you can't blame the orgainzers at all?

FF14 isn't an Indie game, and it has gained an insane amount of tracktion over the last half a year, along with that, a HUGE amount of inactive players will of course come back when Endwalker drops, so this was really to be expected from a mile away.
You are entirely flying by that this "current situation" isn't an excuse for everything.

then again should we really expect soo much from a game that can;t even give all players player housing where many other mmos that were much bigger have? i got banned from ffxiv steam forums for complaining about player housing to devs, banned by a DEV directly because i slandered the housing system.

[Xavier_Firbold]

booked 3.5 weeks off work ALL my holidays to play endwalker, 2 of those wer wasted fromt he 2 week delay, other week wasted because i can't log in. they messed up big time and don't anyone dare defend them. they should and could have upgraded the EU servers 2 years ago but they didnt, they could have made more eu servers 2 years ago but they didnt, EU has 13.

I've been sat in queue ALL DAY and now just got the 2002 error and now get that every launch so now i can't log back in and when i can will be in a 10k queue and that's my last day of holiday off work gone GG F GG THANK YOU LOADS!!!!! NOW I WORK TOMORROW NOW I WILL FINISH WORK AT 7PM EVERY DAY AND NEVER GET TO PLAY.

Totally agree with this - anyone defending the company is just doing so to white-knight through their love of Yoshi.

The guy's great but this is the WORST launch I have ever seen in an mmo and I've been playing them off and on for almost 20 years.

You can't blame the Covaids for everything.

[Snorky]

Totally agree with this - anyone defending the company is just doing so to white-knight through their love of Yoshi.

The guy's great but this is the WORST launch I have ever seen in an mmo and I've been playing them off and on for almost 20 years.

You can't blame the Covaids for everything.

Stop trolling, anyone that has to call people a white knight is just a whiner.

[Lanadra]

Way to be condescending for no reason.
Of course I am aware, as just about everyone is.

That still doesn't justify this. It doesn't suddenly make it okay.
If you buy concert tickets and don't get let in because of the "current situation" and miss the concert without getting your money back, you'd probably still see it as reasonable for it is the fault of the "currect situation" and you can't blame the orgainzers at all?

FF14 isn't an Indie game, and it has gained an insane amount of tracktion over the last half a year, along with that, a HUGE amount of inactive players will of course come back when Endwalker drops, so this was really to be expected from a mile away.
You are entirely flying by that this "current situation" isn't an excuse for everything.

And you still refuse to get that it doesn't matter if it was 'to be expected a mile away' when even before the influx of the last 6 months it was already impossible to get what they needed. And just like so many others, you mistake 'excuses' with 'an actual valid reason'. You honestly think a shortage that has the entire industrial world from car manufacturing to computers ground to a stand still is a 'baseless excuse'?

The only reason they didn't respond to the influx as we all feel they should.. is because they couldn't, this has been made very clear already.