So the grace that SE earned from giving away 7 free days expires today...

[TheJarvisMan]

It has been 7 days now since the proverbial poo hit the fan. I think we need an announcement today on more extended game time and an ETA for a fix on the server errors (2002, 3001, etc.). The queues themselves are understandable.

As a paying consumer who cannot access the product for which I've already paid, I think that is a perfectly reasonable and fair request (though I still think they should be offering refunds for Endwalker at this point to those who want it). Hopefully we see something today.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

But I have had zero issues getting on Zalera even in early access.

Seems only the obviously way overpopulated servers are having these issues still. At this point y'all need to take some responsibility for rolling on those servers, that you knew were overpopulated, when you could have started on the non-congested ones. They even give Road to 70 and 80 buffs for these servers.

This is karma.

And you're level 81. You aren't getting an Endwalker refund unless you want your character/account locked until you get Endwalker again.

[TheJarvisMan]

But I have had zero issues getting on Zalera even in early access.

Seems only the obviously way overpopulated servers are having these issues still. At this point y'all need to take some responsibility for rolling on those servers, that you knew were overpopulated, when you could have started on the non-congested ones. They even give Road to 70 and 80 buffs for these servers.

This is karma.

And you're level 81. You aren't getting an Endwalker refund unless you want your character/account locked until you get Endwalker again.

A few things. Firstly, I don't want a refund, but I do understand that some folks who aren't able to play deserve one and should be able to get one. That is because I'm willing to step outside of my own experience with this launch to objectively see the point that others are making. I'm level 81 because I was able to log on briefly on launch day. I haven't been able to play since. Secondly, if you're idea of karma is that people should be going through these servers errors and forced to babysit queues that likely will not even let them into the game before they crash with a 2002 just because they chose to play on a certain server, then I'm glad that you aren't god and don't set the rules for karma in life. Why are you so attached to thwarting people's legitimate complaints?

[StealthPaladin]

it is pretty rare that you will get d/c from queue twice due to the game itself or SE's servers

sure it does happen to people on occasion, but in no way is it correct or remotely fair to call endwalker unplayable at this point

[Faceless]

I've been on my server since ARR. Played back in the beginning and have been playing well so far this expansion. I don't remember if it automatically put my 1.0 character on the server I'm on or if I was able to pick which legacy server it put me on. Regardless, I am not leaving the game now, but would like the ability to wait in the queue properly without getting error'd out in the middle of it and booted back to the end of the line. Until then they should at least give more game time until they fix it properly since today's maintenance didn't fully fix the problem.

[paoweeotter]

I still cant play consistently. I paid for this game to play it, not to not play it.

[Illmaeran]

At this point y'all need to take some responsibility for rolling on those servers, that you knew were overpopulated, when you could have started on the non-congested ones.

Gilgamesh was activated in 2013, the OP joined the forums in 2014 so it stands to reason he's been playing since at least the date he joined, if not earlier than that. Chances are very good the server wasn't overpopulated at the time he started playing. It's nigh guaranteed that Gilgamesh didn't have the population problems in 2014 that it does now.

It's not Karma, it's change over time that is to be expected of a growing MMO. I've been on Atomos since 2014 and never had queue issues until this year. I happen to be lucky and play close to opposite the server's prime time so I haven't encountered significant queues even on expansion launches. What does it say about server population increase and the game's population increase in general that a low-population Japanese server has queues when I'm playing during their work and school hours? For reference, my 6 pm is their 7 or 8 am depending on Daylight Savings.

It's unkind and a bad point of argument to blame someone for their choice of server; especially when they made that choice 7 years ago. It's an even worse point to bring up when touting your ability to get on your server when it has thousands fewer active players on it as of December 3rd, 2021. https://dotesports.com/mmo/news/all-...er-populations

[ForteNightshade]

But I have had zero issues getting on Zalera even in early access.

Seems only the obviously way overpopulated servers are having these issues still. At this point y'all need to take some responsibility for rolling on those servers, that you knew were overpopulated, when you could have started on the non-congested ones. They even give Road to 70 and 80 buffs for these servers.

This is karma.

And you're level 81. You aren't getting an Endwalker refund unless you want your character/account locked until you get Endwalker again.

Uh... Zalera had a higher estimated population going into Endwalker than Gilgamesh. So you can all that "responsibility" nonsense. Source, if you're curious.

Every server has reached capacity according to Yoshida himself. You likely had "zero issues" because of the times you logged in. Cactuar had queues of a measly 54 at 9am EST. Try again at 5pm and they were 6k+.

[Lanadra]

Uh... Zalera had a higher estimated population going into Endwalker than Gilgamesh. So you can all that "responsibility" nonsense. Source, if you're curious.

Every server has reached capacity according to Yoshida himself. You likely had "zero issues" because of the times you logged in. Cactuar had queues of a measly 54 at 9am EST. Try again at 5pm and they were 6k+.

This is true for all of us I would say, Moogle typically has a queue of 50 to 100 when I log on in the morning, and not even 'oh my god holy shit' early morning, I've had a queue of 58 at 11 in the morning a few days ago.