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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    You can have two thoughts in your head at the same time

    "The dev team is doing the best they can" and "I hate this, it sucks" are not mutually exclusive. We have seen time and time again that SE values its playerbase. Even if you want to be completely cynical and go at it from a "business just wants to make money" standpoint, they're at least smart enough to understand the impact goodwill has on their bottom line, and want to nurture it. I see it that way myself. They understand the importance of their reputation and aren't going to do something stupid to jeopardize it, especially with Blizzard right now being a glaring example of what happens when you do.

    I'm not going to tell you not to unsub, because there's no reason to keep giving them money if you can't play. But please look at SE as an ally against the problem, not the problem itself. The 2002s suck and they need to fix them. I believe that they're going to. This is an unprecedented issue, and while it hasn't been fixed, its gotten better since launch. The overpopulation itself is something that could not have been foreseen (WoW crumbling the way it did came out of nowhere) and by the time they had half a clue that the influx was coming they were left with a need to buy something that literally could not have been bought any time in the past year and a half.

    Yeah, it sucks. I'm not telling you to just get over it. I'm telling you to direct your anger at the proper targets.
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    Some people unironically seem to think that SE have like some personal vendetta against them.
    As if Yoshida goes to sleep every night thinking '' oh that Joe guy on the forums, I hate him so much I am going to create problems so he can't login ''.

    I think some people also have very severe issues with entitlement too.
    I get being disappointed with Job changes or if you don't like the Artifact gear design you got.
    But just because you didn't like it doesn't mean that it's the most horrible thing ever created and that the game devs are lazy and morons.

    I just think the way people choose to talk about things is often times extremely toxic and immature.
    It's as if some people don't think about anything at all even for one second, they exist purely on a reactionary plane.
    There's no nuance to their views and opinions at all it's all '' what is my immediate split second reaction? Okay that's what I'll stick with. ''.
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    No you cant! !

    If you have two opinions they cancel each other out. You're only allowed one simple opinion, and generally it should be in agreement with whatever the person thinks- else that should also be canceled out!

    Not incredibly common but a few times it has seemed as much. I remember one person claimed I had no opinion because the TC appreciated that I hadn't jumped down their throat and they didn't like that, as I detailed further out what their opinion might look like if it worked but in the end I personally didn't think it should be that way. It was interesting to see that post get a number of likes too.

    Certainly an element of people can't be bothered to read after a certain point (or occasionally a few are not at all xD), and just start to make things up as they skim 2% of it lol. Sometimes I think I should shorten some stuff, and certainly if someone says the pacing or spacing is hard I'll try (means effort was made), but usually my internal dialog on 'length' problems ends up with "if they couldn't be bothered, then maybe I shouldn't be bothered either". I'm not in it for the popularity contest so hot quips isn't of any value to me. My reasons for length often relate to being important, to me, that I've explained what I think the problem is, why, how I feel about it (as such SE may more easily think of alternative solutions they believe are better), and what I think might fix it (I don't like criticism without construction). Whether that problem is feedback, suggestions, or just good or chat.

    As for the current situation, I definitely feel both those ideas, and perhaps one more. I think it's both hilarious and cool how this game has went from giant fiery bomb that most people wouldn't touch to we're all fighting to play the game.. waiting hours for the chance. Before EW released you could already feel that this one was going to be a bit crazy. Hopefully we can all get through this as quickly and optimally as we can, for all people's involved (SE and the players themselves).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 12-12-2021 at 02:46 PM.