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  1. #11
    Player
    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I was hopeful that sage would have been better thought out in terms of green DPS. But it's a bit of a weak healer, so if you are up for the challenge of an underpowered healer trying to keep a random, weakly geared, never-mitigates tank up, it might be worth a try. It's powerful enough until you've used up your three adders, then it's a bit of a "we are all going to die" class (with the never-mitigates tank)



    Me too I like the thumping heart, edge of seat feeling. And if your tank mitigates it's pretty nice to have that arsenal of huge fast heals. I just wish there were more kaboom-like spells.
    How is Sage a "a bit of a weak healer"?
    The oGCD toolkit is powerful with lots of mitigation baked in on top of the pretty high healing potencies and unlike their shield healer counterpart SCH, they can preshield on the run between pulls or while the tank is still gathering mobs whenever they want. Haima is like a mini tank invuln in leveling dungeons, Panhaima is also great for the tank alone, you can constantly have 10% mitigation on the tank, constant auto heals from Kardia and has much higher aoe dps than AST or SCH. It's only outclassed by WHM if they have Misery already charged from dumping Lilies before and more or less on par without one or if its build up during the pull. Between 70-80 Sage gets a lot of additional strong abilities and Pneuma with Zoe is a 900 potency burst heal at level cap.
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  2. #12
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Leveling to 90.
    I loved having WHMs in my party and pulled slower with Sage. I had 1 good sage all the other if I pulled 2 groups it went very bad.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  3. #13
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    Genbe197's Avatar
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    Beatrix Steinner
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    Have you tried doing them as PuG where people are actually hit by mechanics and you have to heal them? Other than that maybe FF14 style of healing isnt for you. Because if bosses are hitting hard or spamming raid wides how are dps supposed to recover if they make a mistake? Wipe the group?
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  4. #14
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    They should make more bosses that pushes healer to the limit. I've done fights that I can run out of MP if I overheal too much due to constant raid wide dots on the other game's hardest level content.
    This sounds horrible, because a bad healer could make a clear almost impossible.
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  5. #15
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    Genbe197's Avatar
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    Beatrix Steinner
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Leveling to 90.
    I loved having WHMs in my party and pulled slower with Sage. I had 1 good sage all the other if I pulled 2 groups it went very bad.
    Because sage is new and a lot of people don't know what their CDs do. Nor do they understand that their t1 heal is useless. Has nothing to do with the job being bad.
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  6. #16
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    This sounds horrible, because a bad healer could make a clear almost impossible.
    As it stands now, in basically any high end raid a bad -anything- will make the clear impossible.
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  7. #17
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    Rhythalia Everlight
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    This sounds horrible, because a bad healer could make a clear almost impossible.
    I was talking about hardest content. Normal version should be more forgiving.
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  8. #18
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    wait until the first raid before asking the question, because this question has been asked at the beginning of every single expack, and return a false positive every single time.

    First: people went from running expert with gear 2 tier above content for 2 years to running with gear equal or even under the content level.

    Second: people are either new to the job, or switching job at the beginning of expack, and also new to mechanic, frankly this combo makes a lot of them play badly.


    Case in point: I main healer, so I level AST first and holy crap it was hell. A lot of tanks I heal literally don't know how to use (or spread out) their CD between pull, or use mitigation such as Reprisal on big AOE. Then everyone don't know mechanic and eating vulstack, all of this can overwhelm the healer quickly. Now that I finished the story I'm lvling a tank next, which I can play fairly well. I run together with a healer acquaintance and we both don't see any difference between now and before. I don't feel I take any more damage than usual, and my healer still pew pew like before.

    This made both of us realize the classes are not underpower, people just play really sub-optimal during the first week, which in understandable.
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  9. #19
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Character
    Avalen Koma
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    I love the fact that both this thread and the other healing thread on the main page are essentially countering each other.

    It's almost like it boils down to player perspective and experience.
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  10. #20
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    Lisa Miaha
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don’t understand why everything always have to be hard. Can’t we just have some things be easy and be happy with that?
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