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    Kira_Yaeger's Avatar
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    Kira Yaeger
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    Is healing going to get harder?

    So from my experience so far healing is the most braindead it's ever been. The EX trials are super easy to heal even as far as being solo heal and solo tankable. There are so many more tools to mitigate and reduce damage and even more tools to heal that damage when it goes out I thought that when I seen all that that square would actually add some viable heal checks to the game. Well that didn't happen, the game became "more accessible". Is there ever going to be any kind of heal checks in the game or are healers going to continue down the road of ShB where it's dps spam till some damage then press one OGCD and everyone is back to full hp. Tanks are so broken (except DRK) that TBs do no damage even in AF/dungeon gear, and even then they can just heal themselves naturally through their rotation (except DRK). Just wondering when the developers would realize that the game has been out 10 years now and the same gameplay loop is starting to get stale while the majority of the playerbase gets better overtime. I understand there are ultimates (that have gotten significantly easier due to mitigation changes) for "challenging content" but man would it be nice to not have to wait YEARS for something that remotely challenges players for the first couple months. Also fix DRK that class is the most boring/terrible class I have ever attempted to level up in this game throughout my time playing. TBN is not worth spending 3k mana on for almost no return and the traits you get while leveling are a smack in the face.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    People have been asking this same exact question for multiple expansions now, so safe to say the answer is a big, fat, no.
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    Obsius Grimory
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I mean, I have noticed in EW I've been healing more than dpsing, even had to use some more of my cooldowns than I have had to prior. but, I could just be a bad healer so lol
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    Reggie Rich
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Didn't you hear? Their reasoning for removing all complexity from healing was "we're going to make fights harder so you have to heal more!" and then proceeded to make fights easier and easier and classes more and more braindead every single expansion. I think they're touting the "most challenging raids yet" bullshit for this one as well.
    If you want to be challenged this game isn't for you and hasn't been for you for a long long time now. You have to understand the overwhelming majority of this games playerbase is chronically awful at video games. The thought of having to think ahead more than 1 gcd is completely impossible. Let alone MULTIPLE gcds (removal of cleric stance), having more than 2 dps buttons or actually having to manage resources. Just find another game man, you will not find what you're looking for here.
    don't even get me started on how shitty the tanks have gotten over the years lmao.
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    Last edited by say0; 12-12-2021 at 08:41 AM.

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    Bulbs Satomi
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    Sage Lv 90
    honestly try sage might be more fun for ya , not much more healing but feels like i have more fun being sage than when i tried the other healers. fair point i did not try the classes much
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I was hopeful that sage would have been better thought out in terms of green DPS. But it's a bit of a weak healer, so if you are up for the challenge of an underpowered healer trying to keep a random, weakly geared, never-mitigates tank up, it might be worth a try. It's powerful enough until you've used up your three adders, then it's a bit of a "we are all going to die" class (with the never-mitigates tank)

    Quote Originally Posted by bulbs View Post
    it is a challenge but fun none the less !
    Me too I like the thumping heart, edge of seat feeling. And if your tank mitigates it's pretty nice to have that arsenal of huge fast heals. I just wish there were more kaboom-like spells.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 12-12-2021 at 08:43 AM.
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    Bulbs Satomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I was hopeful that sage would have been better thought out in terms of green DPS. But it's a bit of a weak healer, so if you are up for the challenge of an underpowered healer trying to keep a random, weakly geared, never-mitigates tank up, it might be worth a try. It's powerful enough until you've used up your three adders, then it's a bit of a "we are all going to die" class (with the never-mitigates tank)
    hate to say it but i think this is exactly what i needed honestly . it is a challenge but fun none the less !
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    Kira Yaeger
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    Don't get me wrong, the ultimates are an enjoyable and challenging experience if only they came out more often. Savages have gotten pretty dull and the huge lull that happened during covid only exasperated the fact that 4 fights is just not enough of a challenge. I enjoy the casual aspect but man would I like more hardcore stuff in the game. Even if SE knew that only a small percentage of the playerbase completed these challenged it should not be something that is overlooked EVER in and MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeL1790 View Post
    I mean, I have noticed in EW I've been healing more than dpsing, even had to use some more of my cooldowns than I have had to prior. but, I could just be a bad healer so lol
    In what fight are you healing more? In the first EX the only party damage going out are the stacks and the 2 raidwides the entire fight. In the 2nd there are a couple party stacks and the split mechanic. 9 out of 10 minutes in the fight you are pressing one button dpsing.
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    Rhythalia Everlight
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    They should make more bosses that pushes healer to the limit. I've done fights that I can run out of MP if I overheal too much due to constant raid wide dots on the other game's hardest level content.
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