A Formal Complaint

[Fukuro]

What are you talking about?
I am saying, right now, it is not an ideal time to bring this up because there is ongoing more urgent issues got their attention?

But does this thread correlate in any way with the servers issues? I don’t think people working on the servers are the same as the ones working on hairstyles, gear adjustment and so on. I don‘t understand why having the server issues should result in not voicing an opinion, which isn‘t even remotley related to the server issue.



To go back on topic.
I‘m glad they are „finishing“ the races first and I‘ll wait another 2 years for more hairstyles if it means people can get to play fem hroths! (I‘m really hopeful this is not the case tho, and they can work on both simultaneously!)
I agree with OP on the extra hairstyles we got tho. I think there could have been more popular choices they could have worked on. Let‘s hope we see more added in the near future.

[Exosapien]

But does this thread correlate in any way with the servers issues? I don’t think people working on the servers are the same as the ones working on hairstyles, gear adjustment and so on. I don‘t understand why having the server issues should result in not voicing an opinion, which isn‘t even remotley related to the server issue.



To go back on topic.
I‘m glad they are „finishing“ the races first and I‘ll wait another 2 years for more hairstyles if it means people can get to play fem hroths! (I‘m really hopeful this is not the case tho, and they can work on both simultaneously!)
I agree with OP on the extra hairstyles we got tho. I think there could have been more popular choices they could have worked on. Let‘s hope we see more added in the near future.

Personally I think it's just a matter of creating Male Viera, and you know, the whole entire Endwalker expansion.

Extra hair options on existing races were a nice bonus, and I'm sure more will come with time. Fem Hrothgar need to be a priority at this point for sure! And perhaps now that FFXIV is finally the top dog in terms of profit for SE they might add some people to the team. That would be cool.

This thread making a "Formal Complaint" because someone didn't get their Karen hairstyle is kinda funny though.

[Denji]

But does this thread correlate in any way with the servers issues? I don’t think people working on the servers are the same as the ones working on hairstyles, gear adjustment and so on. I don‘t understand why having the server issues should result in not voicing an opinion, which isn‘t even remotley related to the server issue.

Despite my distaste over how certain people are conducting themselves in this thread, you are correct. Whataboutism will get us nowhere and other issues in the game does not absolve the game and its devs of legitimate criticism over the lack of customization options for viera (and hrothgar) which have been in the game now for around two years.

That said, it also isn't a high priority issue and in addition I feel that it can be a little distasteful because Viera at least have gotten -some- hairstyles relatively recently unlike the previously mentioned Hroths. Very "looking a gift horse in the mouth"-esque.

[Denji]

[myahele]

They did say that Hrothgar will get new hairstyles in 6.1, but will they still need to use Fantasia just to change it?

[Denji]

They did say that Hrothgar will get new hairstyles in 6.1, but will they still need to use Fantasia just to change it?

i hope not, honestly. i was also just mostly making a sh*tpost.

i actually feel for viera because i -do- play a hrothgar as my main despite the character i have selected to display on the forum. it's kind of frustrating that they can't even just hire a single person to just, update a single headpiece to work on hroths/viera every patch or so. people who modify the game (which is against the TOS and bannable) have already proven this is a trivial task that takes only an hour or two at most and considering how many weeks there are between patches and how much cash FFXIV has been raking it, i feel they could totally afford to hire someone to do it.

[Theox]

I am 100% with you on that and I don't really understand people who seek each and every excuse for this issue to be postponed by the devs. Oh, you see, we got queues, vieras are fine, it's not even that bad, you're asking for too much, hrothgar have it worse etc. Like yes, we know, and what? Lmao. Like, literally one should not exclude the other. Yes, we absolutely should get more hair options and costumisation for hrothgar AS WELL as vieras. Stop making excuses for issues that have been in the game for 2 years now.

And to the OP - I don't like you as a person but I'm willing to die with you on this hill.

[SherlottaEryut]

No, I am telling you you're being over the top right now. Justifiably. How long I've played Viera has nothing to do with anything, especially when I have 2 female Viera alts and personally also only like a couple of the available hairstyles. On this character, my main, I only like about two of them, and neither of them are perfectly aligned to my aesthetic. However, I'm not one to expect the game cater to me personally either.

So, SE explicitly told me to post my complaint on the forums so they can review it and forward it to the right person and you're acting like I've made this out of spite? Hyperbole wasn't needed - all I ever wanted was for Viera to be up to standard with the other races, I don't think its asking much? Yet, there's always people on the forums telling me there's other priorities. Don't implement a half-arsed race if you're not going to bother further improving it. People join FFXIV and choose a Viera or Hrothgar only then to discover later down the line they have severe limitations so they inevitably end up paying £5 for a fantasia - it's extortionate and not okay.

And to the OP - I don't like you as a person but I'm willing to die with you on this hill.

Not going to lie but I can't remember you at all, I've had pleasant experiences with many people on the forums and I don't remember most of them so I doubt highly doubt I'll remember you. Nevertheless, I'm glad we have something we can agree on. It's nice to come across someone who has some sense.

[Exosapien]

So, SE explicitly told me to post my complaint on the forums so they can review it and forward it to the right person and you're acting like I've made this out of spite? Hyperbole wasn't needed - all I ever wanted was for Viera to be up to standard with the other races, I don't think its asking much? Yet, there's always people on the forums telling me there's other priorities. Don't implement a half-arsed race if you're not going to bother further improving it. People join FFXIV and choose a Viera or Hrothgar only then to discover later down the line they have severe limitations so they inevitably end up paying £5 for a fantasia - it's extortionate and not okay.

Yeah, I was right, over-the-top. People are allowed to disagree with you. If hyperbole wasn't needed you might want to refrain from it's use. You got more options. You don't like the options, so now you're demanding more options. Are you going to demand they keep making things until they get the one you think is acceptable based on your subjective opinions?

Compared to other successful games in the genre, even if they didn't add those six more options you still have more options that you would in other games.

The only thing you're putting out is entitlement and if you didn't like Viera to start with, why'd you make one in the first place?

[SherlottaEryut]

Yeah, I was right, over-the-top. People are allowed to disagree with you. If hyperbole wasn't needed you might want to refrain from it's use. You got more options. You don't like the options, so now you're demanding more options. Are you going to demand they keep making things until they get the one you think is acceptable based on your subjective opinions?

The only thing you're putting out is entitlement and if you didn't like Viera to start with, why'd you make one in the first place?

No, I'm complaining because over 2+ years of waiting we only have 6 hairstyles. They implemented a gender counterpart instead of working on the pre-existing issues with female Viera, they had plenty of time to fix it but instead they were too busy making another race with the same issues. if me requesting the same level of customization options as the other races make me entitled, then yes I am entitled - but by definition no, I don't think my request or complaint is unfair.

You, on the other hand have been continuously hostile and argumentative on the forums which I'm not surprised at. Nearly every single post I've seen you on, you've been arguing and unnecessarily confrontational. If you're like this in real life to anyone; you may want to refrain from having such an unwarranted attitude and potentially look at getting professional help.

You'll be the first person on the forums I've actually blocked because honestly, at a time like this the last thing I want is to be lectured by a Viera who pairs grey skin with purple hair.