I love SMN

[Gallus]

Things I like about the new SMN:

- Shiny and spectacular. Every spell you press feels relevant.
- Each primal has its own minirotation and feels unique (even if they are still very simple).
- Extremely smooth.
- Doesn't suffer from downtimes.
- No filler.

Things I feel could slightly improve or get tweaked:

- Searing Light is at a fixed 120 sec. Summon Bahamut/Phoenix is at 57-60 sec depending on your spell speed. It's not a big deal, but it's slightly annoying.
- Summon Bahamut/Phoenix should be two separate buttons and you should be able to decide which one you want every time, bahamut for some extra tiny dps or phoenix for a powerful aoe heal.

[godvivec]

(not a strong caster dps anymore.., sure Blm is and should remain top caster dps .. but feels as if Smn fell behind Rdm & Mnk too, a bit more thsn excepted.., both 2 dps also with slight or (more, Rdm) utility.., Smn feels like it dropped low as ever (normally, new classes or big reworks start off strong or OP, than get lowered after time a bit, .. new Smn is not the case, and somehow doubt it will get a buff)

Damage wise, Monk is ahead of every other class, except reaper. It's very very strong, if a little janky. RDM is ahead of summoner, admittedly not a huge amount, but it's ahead in most useful categories. Damage and Utility being the two most important.
I have no doubt Square will do some potency changes, but not sure how they'll address being so far behind in functional utility.

They COULD add a little complexity in between the weaves with some sort of use for aetherflow. You build up stacks to achieve something and get to summon a support summon. It would add a little something to do between ruin spams.

[zcrash970]

Love the new Smn too! (still keeping one dot would have been nice) .., and pre-90 Smn feels strong too, but at 90 it feels a bit / tick weak

(not a strong caster dps anymore.., sure Blm is and should remain top caster dps .. but feels as if Smn fell behind Rdm & Mnk too, a bit more thsn excepted.., both 2 dps also with slight or (more, Rdm) utility.., Smn feels like it dropped low as ever (normally, new classes or big reworks start off strong or OP, than get lowered after time a bit, .. new Smn is not the case, and somehow doubt it will get a buff)

Smn is close to the very bottom and with little room to grow since the skill floor and ceiling are very close, so once more people get more comfortable with their jobs, it is very possible that new smn will be left in the dust.

[zcrash970]

Your join date: Sep 2021

ZCrash's join date: Sep 2013

Hmm i wonder who knows more about how things were in ARR/HW......

To be fair, I started right before yoshi took control of FFXIV