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    it's funny how many people in this thread have clearly never done week 1 raid prog in their life but are telling week 1 raiders how they should feel or how they should play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    it's funny how many people in this thread have clearly never done week 1 raid prog in their life but are telling week 1 raiders how they should feel or how they should play
    I do week 1 pugging and usually clear the tier within the first 2 weeks in PF alone, assuming enough people make it to the 4th savage by then. So yes, you can grab a pug to replace and go at it or you can delay your raid day and not be "world first". It sucks, but that doesn't mean they should delay it for millions in game because people need to sit through 3-4k queues.

    Also I have yet to see one comment address the fact of how delaying the raid stops the queues from appearing to begin with. Especially with alot of the commmunity likely jumping into raiding too this time around (considering the playerbase boom and WoW Raiders), the odds are that queues will still exist. People need to take a second and meditate on the fact that this is the new norm for the foreseeable future until they upgrade their infrastructure which is likely not happening for quite some time, otherwise they would have done it by now. If they had options on the horizon which would alleviate the queues substantially, I can guarantee they would have announced it by now less than 3 weeks before the raids due release. Delaying is inviting additional scrutiny for ZERO payoff. Your best bet, is literally to raid during off peak, join the game as early as possible or pray the base dies off enough to shorten the queues by then (doubt it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    I do week 1 pugging and usually clear the tier within the first 2 weeks in PF alone, assuming enough people make it to the 4th savage by then. So yes, you can grab a pug to replace and go at it or you can delay your raid day and not be "world first". It sucks, but that doesn't mean they should delay it for millions in game because people need to sit through 3-4k queues.
    I have to laugh at the notion "millions" raid in this game. If only, then maybe we'd finally get a fifth or sixth fight per tier. As for clearing within two weeks. Given information readily available, I have my doubts on the validity of that claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Also I have yet to see one comment address the fact of how delaying the raid stops the queues from appearing to begin with. Especially with alot of the commmunity likely jumping into raiding too this time around (considering the playerbase boom and WoW Raiders), the odds are that queues will still exist. People need to take a second and meditate on the fact that this is the new norm for the foreseeable future until they upgrade their infrastructure which is likely not happening for quite some time, otherwise they would have done it by now. If they had options on the horizon which would alleviate the queues substantially, I can guarantee they would have announced it by now less than 3 weeks before the raids due release. Delaying is inviting additional scrutiny for ZERO payoff. Your best bet, is literally to raid during off peak, join the game as early as possible or pray the base dies off enough to shorten the queues by then (doubt it).
    ... They waited to announce the delay for the whole expansion until two weeks before its official release. With Ultimate, they waited ten days before announcing its delay. The idea they'll give advance notice just doesn't lineup with their track record. In fact, it's the exact opposite. They typically wait until the final hour to announce delays.
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