Should Savage be Delayed?

[xxmiamorecadenza]

This is based off the assumption that queue times will last well into a January timeframe.

A lot of people run in statics for Savage and Ultimate content for the sake of consistency. Times are pre-determined so that eight people can log and meet.

But if queues could potentially delay that log by several hours - then players will most likely struggle to set a solid schedule.

Of course, statics may only compose a minority of clears and I may be inaccurate in the statement that a fair amount of the raiding player base are going to be adversely effected.

[Havenchild]

If people are going to aim to make Day 1 raiding, then they can also make the effort to login earlier for it. Granted logins should get better over time.

[Liam_Harper]

If people are going to aim to make Day 1 raiding, then they can also make the effort to login earlier for it.

Doesn't matter if they do login early. Imagine if one or two people dc on the first pull and there's a 5000+ queue so they can't get in. Raid day basically ended.

The devs actually have an interest in week 1 raids and the world first race and I imagine it'll be popular on streaming, it's not something they want ending in a mess.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Doesn't matter if they do login early. Imagine if one or two people dc on the first pull and there's a 5000+ queue so they can't get in. Raid day basically ended.

The devs actually have an interest in week 1 raids and the world first race and I imagine it'll be popular on streaming, it's not something they want ending in a mess.

Potential disconnects would make for a major issue indeed. Any mishaps and it's over at that point.

[Havenchild]

Doesn't matter if they do login early. Imagine if one or two people dc on the first pull and there's a 5000+ queue so they can't get in. Raid day basically ended.

The devs actually have an interest in week 1 raids and the world first race and I imagine it'll be popular on streaming, it's not something they want ending in a mess.

That's true but that's kinda the nature of the beast. You can replace with a pug that day and move on. You can't seriously expect the raid to be delayed because of the expectation that people may get dc'd at random and hit queue afterwards. They don't delay raids because people potentially disconnect. There's people that disconnect and they never can come back cause net went down in high storm areas during a hurricane and such. No one cares about that and yet those groups will have to replace as necessary if they want to raid. Unless something critical happened just before the week of raid, where massive instability hit the servers, there is almost 0% chance of this happening not to mention they don't want to delay anything else if possible to rehatch literally the same complaints people had when they delayed the expansion. Why would you invite the bad press on purpose?

Also my point of Day 1 Raiding wasn't really refuted. If you choose to raid asap on the first day, you have to expect certain prospects. Moreso if you go into it KNOWING the status and onslaught the login servers are getting right now.

[SuperZay]

That's true but that's kinda the nature of the beast. You can replace with a pug that day and move on.

That's not how static works.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

If people are going to aim to make Day 1 raiding, then they can also make the effort to login earlier for it. Granted logins should get better over time.

no they cant as people got life out the game, you know WORK and shit.

If statics all log in at the same time they should all be in the game around the same time, because they'll be in the same spot in queue.

that take 2h-4h. how much time you think people got to play?

Day 1 raiding teams often ask their players to take a week of vacation if they're in the serious hunt for the world first race.

That said, I'm in agreement that they should consider delaying Savage. My team isn't one of the world first groups; we just like the challenge of doing it at current level. But our main tank has been able to play maybe 2 hours a day for the last week, and he's only level 82 at this point as a result.

you can power level him and he do msq later but this problem is real for most players now. not much people can play much at this time of the year and the wait tames don't help.

If the content is ready, I see no reason to delay it.

so why they do it any ways? its ready for a long time so why its not here day 1?

[aqskerorokero]

If people are going to aim to make Day 1 raiding, then they can also make the effort to login earlier for it. Granted logins should get better over time.

Sure...at this rate ppl that have a day time job can't even finish the msq when the raid drops

[Juun]

If statics all log in at the same time they should all be in the game around the same time, because they'll be in the same spot in queue.

[Xerkrosis]

But if a disconnect happens, you lost that member for the entire day. And there's many causes for a sudden disconnect, like losing packets for 5s, or something with SEs server causing the 9000x-errors, which also isn't a rare case - despite how much SE tries to blame it on the user.