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  1. #51
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    We no longer know for certain if there will be 5.

    Why? the achievements that say lvl 5 can be earned even at lvl 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    Based on feedback and checking in-game conditions after the release of Hamlets for each city-state in patch 1.22a, we will be performing adjustments to points.

    The adjustment, which will take place in a 1.22a hot fix coming soon, will focus on reducing the amount of points needed to advance to a level 2 rating by about 1/3 of the current.
    *We will be announcing the time of maintenance via Information.

    Also, these will not be the last adjustments for this system. We are currently looking into changing the needed values per world and will be performing adjustments moving forward based on in-game conditions as well as the feedback we receive.
    Hi Camate,

    Thanks for bringing us this new information.

    As others have said, simply a reduction to reach "Rank 2" is NOT the solution to fixing Hamlet Defense.

    Some good ideas that people have brought up include:

    • Add a Point Threshold (besides the Top 20), that if ANY Player contributes enough to reach the Threshold, they will gain access to a "better Loot Pool / Higher Chance at Drops."
    • Drop Rates are Too Low. Playing against the super low Random Number Generator for any meaningful drops (like Militia Gear or Primal Seals) has disincentivized the majority of the players.

      There's one thing to be said about being "Rare" and then there's "Ridiculous" (which is what the current Hamlet Drop Rates feel like).
    • Add a Cumulative Point System (so you Earn Points that you can trade in for Items). At least with a Point System EVERYONE has a chance to work their way towards a goal (some rare / nice Militia Item) and they know they're making progress & not wasting time.

    Right now, most people no longer want to bother doing Hamlet Defense, unless they were one of just *20* people on an entire server(!). And you've only just released this new content.

    That should be a clear enough warning sign that something is fundamentally wrong.

    If you can, please pass along our feedback and the major points in this thread to Yoshida-san (there are some great ideas here and listing of problems with the current Hamlet Defense):

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/44280-Hamlet-defense-feedback-from-a-top-20-provisioner-Critical-problems-and-solutions?p=669971&viewfull=1#post669971


    Thanks!
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  3. #53
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    This is what is wrong with these forums:

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings!

    Based on feedback and checking in-game conditions after the release of Hamlets for each city-state in patch 1.22a, we will be performing adjustments to points.

    The adjustment, which will take place in a 1.22a hot fix coming soon, will focus on reducing the amount of points needed to advance to a level 2 rating by about 1/3 of the current.
    *We will be announcing the time of maintenance via Information.

    Also, these will not be the last adjustments for this system. We are currently looking into changing the needed values per world and will be performing adjustments moving forward based on in-game conditions as well as the feedback we receive.
    This gets 35 likes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    Make militia drops like dynamis (i.e., low drop rate from mobs and bosses). Higher drop rate for higher difficulty (i.e., rank 2 vs. rank 1). Give seals based on score. Give 1 anima per win. Provisioning gives anima, exp, seals, and raises level of invasion. Let us know via in game announcement when battle phase starts.

    BAM, fixed.
    I fix entire system (IMO) and I get 5 likes...What is wrong with you people!?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    I fix entire system (IMO) and I get 5 likes...What is wrong with you people!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    We no longer know for certain if there will be 5.

    Why? the achievements that say lvl 5 can be earned even at lvl 1.
    the achievemnt was originaly worded for any levle
    i think its a bug we can earn them still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    I fail to see how it is any different than any other 8 person content currently available in the game. Granted, you have to fill supply orders first, but as the content gets used less and less, they could easily just reduce the amount that needs to be donated in order to compensate for this.

    Also, there could be more to it we are not aware of since they havent actually given us AF weapons yet. There is also the very small possibilty that the system itself could change once 2.0 hits.
    Hell no... this just kills the game's future players
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    and also, since there are obviously going to be 5 levels of each hamlet...i have a feeling until its all released we wont see the full potential of all this

    why get to rank 5 if you can do everything at 1/2?
    better drop rate? better item drop c.C?
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    If lvl 2 is hard for a pickup and a good group gets about 30k.... what the heck are people gonna do for lvl 5? I would think that getting level 3 and even doing poorly as a good group would net you better chances at items, but still allow a group to pull off a win. though it would prolly take some time/patience and a good strat. As of yet, I see a lot of people holding "their way/strat" close to their chest to be "top group". I can only imagine what type of hurting those Lvl 5 would put on my gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    This is what is wrong with these forums:



    This gets 35 likes...



    I fix entire system (IMO) and I get 5 likes...What is wrong with you people!?
    rofl...its a dev post. They are posting real changes, you're posting your opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowWolf View Post
    If lvl 2 is hard for a pickup and a good group gets about 30k.... what the heck are people gonna do for lvl 5? I would think that getting level 3 and even doing poorly as a good group would net you better chances at items, but still allow a group to pull off a win. though it would prolly take some time/patience and a good strat. As of yet, I see a lot of people holding "their way/strat" close to their chest to be "top group". I can only imagine what type of hurting those Lvl 5 would put on my gear.
    when its new of course itl be hard

    but when has that stopped people from trying?

    given time people will figure out strategies to survive it and so on and so forth and more pugs will be able to win as orginized groups do

    thats normal for all other instances, as it will be for this

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