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    -_- I'm not going to debate my qualifications with you, and at this point I think you're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. The OP posted with an assumption. That assumption was fundamentally incorrect. The whole purpose of my reply was to state that and direct the OP in a different direction in hopes that person could actually find a proper solution. The fact of the matter is this: The player base is vast enough that nearly every potential combination of hardware can be accounted for multiple times over. If there was code within the client that was flooding packets, it wouldn't be hardware dependent. Outside of packet flooding, the only other thing that could be happening would come from malicious code. I'm not saying that SE has done anything malicious. I'm not saying that anyone else suggested it. I'm saying it's HIGHLY unlikely. I only mention that because outside of packet flooding, the client does not have access to the hardware at a low enough level to do anything else that could possibly cause this behavior without exploiting a vulnerability in a connected network device. Exploitation of vulnerabilities would be malicious. Again... I'm not saying they're doing this, and I personally believe that they're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banggugyangu View Post
    -_- I'm not going to debate my qualifications with you, and at this point I think you're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. The OP posted with an assumption. That assumption was fundamentally incorrect. The whole purpose of my reply was to state that and direct the OP in a different direction in hopes that person could actually find a proper solution. The fact of the matter is this: The player base is vast enough that nearly every potential combination of hardware can be accounted for multiple times over. If there was code within the client that was flooding packets, it wouldn't be hardware dependent. Outside of packet flooding, the only other thing that could be happening would come from malicious code. I'm not saying that SE has done anything malicious. I'm not saying that anyone else suggested it. I'm saying it's HIGHLY unlikely. I only mention that because outside of packet flooding, the client does not have access to the hardware at a low enough level to do anything else that could possibly cause this behavior without exploiting a vulnerability in a connected network device. Exploitation of vulnerabilities would be malicious. Again... I'm not saying they're doing this, and I personally believe that they're not.
    No you did not say it was unlikely, you said it was impossible. It may not be what you meant but it's what you said and what it came off 100% as. Words need to be chosen more carefully during the current environment. And bringing up malicious code and immediately bringing up Square's defense as if someone will automatically think it's them...why? The OP never even mentioned any malicious intent nor did I. Why even bring this up? And no offense meant here but, your armchair-technician posts are not a qualification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApeKing View Post
    No you did not say it was unlikely, you said it was impossible. It may not be what you meant but it's what you said and what it came off 100% as. Words need to be chosen more carefully during the current environment. And bringing up malicious code and immediately bringing up Square's defense as if someone will automatically think it's them...why? The OP never even mentioned any malicious intent nor did I. Why even bring this up? And no offense meant here but, your armchair-technician posts are not a qualification.
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    Nothing about his setup would cause the game to affect his modem in a way that it wouldn't do the same for everyone else. The only possibility of that is if someone had put malicious code into the game client that would target specific network devices. I find that to be quite the far-fetched idea from a company like SE, honestly.
    Sure, I didn't use the WORD "unlikely", I said "far-fetched idea", which means ... unlikely... I would post my actual credentials if the industry that I work in weren't the financial industry. I don't care if you believe me or not, and I understand that without actually presenting my credentials, you likely won't, but I'm CIO/CSO for a chain of credit unions. I'm QUITE qualified to comment on the matter. I'm also a far cry from an "armchair-technician". Your comments have not been helpful in this thread whatsoever. You have done nothing but argue with me and feed the OP in his assumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banggugyangu View Post
    Sure, I didn't use the WORD "unlikely", I said "far-fetched idea", which means ... unlikely...
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    The client doesn't have the capabilities of causing this problem.
    Your very first post was confirmational.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banggugyangu View Post
    I would post my actual credentials if the industry that I work in weren't the financial industry. I don't care if you believe me or not, and I understand that without actually presenting my credentials, you likely won't, but I'm CIO/CSO for a chain of credit unions.
    Would/could/if/maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by Banggugyangu View Post
    Your comments have not been helpful in this thread whatsoever. You have done nothing but argue with me and feed the OP in his assumption.
    And your comments have been nothing more than making a claim, having it contradicted, getting upset about it, and then huffing about your qualifications without backing ANYTHING up.You have come off as nothing but snide and arrogant. All I did was make sure the OP doesn't completely disregard the possibly his install is messing with something on his end. Which you immediately said was impossible and you now this because of your "qualifications". Then you backstepped your statement in your next post saying o know I meant it was "unlikely".


    Are you seeing the issue here?
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