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    Player
    Shin96's Avatar
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Think some people miss the point, pay a bit of empathy if you can, or spare it.. whatever.

    Don't have a problem with the queue times. But I definitely understand disappointment, some people have it rough. Seen it myself. Wherever you go just problems, people want to relax and not be in constant agony. Is SE to blame for it? Of course not. But I believe most of us take enjoyment out of this game and nobody takes pride in putting their life at the expense of playing games constantly. It's really when you are out of resources to cope with or lack interpersonal relationships.

    Be patient. Queue times suck as far as I am concerned, but things will get better. Always will.
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    Tattersail Nightwish
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    Mateus
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    I think in the short term, yes, a little.
    I detailed in another thread that after babysitting though a two and a half hour queue, disconnected three times, I was a little crabby. Add to that my first run-in with the "In From the Cold" duty that everyone is complaining about, yes.
    At that instant in time after failing it the first two times, I though that this is NOT what I sat for two and a half hours to do.

    There were other mitigating factors - I went into work early, had a long day - obviously NOT SE's problem. But I just had a headache after all of that and logged.

    Had the same experience with the queue last night, and instead of going back to "In From the Cold", I did some crafting and gathering leveling, got my second crafting class to 90, made some nice gil leveling botanist.
    THEN I went back to "In From the Cold" and aced it the first time.

    So.. I'm thinking that "Yes", the queue night after night after night CAN take its toll.. I think that a certain percentage of players will begin to just "screw this" more often when they log in to see 3,850 ahead of them, and just not try that night. That's unfortunate but it will happen. Once more people are finished with MSQ and whatever leveling they do, it may be "see ya at the next patch" and queues may go down for a while.
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    Laeanna Duskwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    When you have to wait 1-6 hours to get in game, when you finally do, you dont want to step away to do vital things like eating, showering or any other tasks that are normal like sleep, one person i spoke too had been awake 3 days strait (Before the last maint forced them offline), in extreme cases It can result in damage to relationships (As i heard one case of) due to the desire to get as much time in, while you can instead of engaging etc.
    I just load up BDO when I'm waiting in queue. Being a newish player to that game I have a lot to do in preparation of the new season starting on December 22nd so it hasn't really bothered me that much. FFXIV is my main MMO but I don't feel any time pressure to complete everything in it as soon as possible.

    As for damaging relationships and real life problems, that's been a problem for MMO gamers for about 20 years now. It's nothing new.
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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    The long queues are not the issue. If I could queue and go about doing my life, it'd be fine.

    The problem is that a) the queue at any time can randomly kick you so you have to be paying attention in order to requeue within the grace period to keep your position

    and b) the queue will kick you if you are AFK in queue, meaning you have to keep going back to your PC and move the mouse every now and then to not get disconnected.

    So in short, the way FFXIV handles queues is unhealthy since it demands players to stay right in front of their PC for anywhere between 2 to 4 hours just to make sure neither of the 2 errors happen.

    And then there's a chance you'll get a dxerror or other error in the game and you'll go back to the end of the queue for another 4 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    b) the queue will kick you if you are AFK in queue, meaning you have to keep going back to your PC and move the mouse every now and then to not get disconnected.
    This ones only a problem if you want to queue up while still at work like people did when WoW Classic dropped, and come home to be in game. But if you're home just walk by the computer and wave your mouse.

    But yeah they really should fix the errors, they are very vexing.
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    Wait.. is it really an AFK type thing that boots you in the queue?
    Move the mouse a little and it resets the afk timer??

    I've been watching netflix on my computer with the logon screen a little square in the corner, and when I see it go black, I re-log in.
    Seriously, some mouse movement avoids the disconnect??
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    Ashua Rajin
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Despite knowing all of this they still opened up selling the game to as many people who wanted to buy it. IF they wanted stable servers they could have limited the sale in waves based on how many the servers can support. Or we have queues. Those are the two main choices right now because every mmo has this problem on release of new expansions.
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    Darwinian Origin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If a long queue for a video game is legitimately effecting your mental health then you need have a stern word with yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashua View Post
    Despite knowing all of this they still opened up selling the game to as many people who wanted to buy it. IF they wanted stable servers they could have limited the sale in waves based on how many the servers can support. Or we have queues. Those are the two main choices right now because every mmo has this problem on release of new expansions.
    What would you rather have, a long queue or the inability to even buy the game until the next batch of sales becomes available? What if you miss that batch and end up waiting months to even buy the game?
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    Maiko Raines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    Referring back to talks in 2017 about the game needing new servers for growth, SE rejected it.

    Apologies Karen but the Manager is away right now. If you like I can take your name and phone number and I'll be sure to have someone call you back.

    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    Why not? We are like a big family. Help each other.
    Do you mean before or after the ACS starts taking the children away for neglect or abuse?
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    Last edited by MaikoRaines; 12-11-2021 at 07:01 AM.

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    Porter Faelarn
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    Omega
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    Miner Lv 79
    It's depressing! Maybe we should all quit our jobs and login early. It's gonna be fun if the US/UK/EU caves to the new covid nonesense and locks down so we're all off work, the servers will melt! Happy Christmas all!!
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    Of all the things I've lost... I miss my mind the most!

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