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  1. #11
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    "Why is it good to want others to be happy?" -- Ayn Rand


    Can I just point out how hilarious it is that the guy with the Ron Paul signature wants us to stand in a virtual bread line with our Eorzean comrades, waiting for our daily allotment of gameplay welfare rations? Isn't it my Twelves-given freedom to selfishly stay logged in as much as I want to? Don't "rob your neighbor to make up for your mistakes," OP! Should have picked yourself up by your bootstraps and logged in earlier!

    But just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't the logic suggest that we should each get less time on weekends, not more? After all, that's when the most players are trying to log on, so it would help ensure the most people get to play to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    "Why is it good to want others to be happy?" -- Ayn Rand


    Can I just point out how hilarious it is that the guy with the Ron Paul signature wants us to stand in a virtual bread line with our Eorzean comrades, waiting for our daily allotment of gameplay welfare rations? Isn't it my Twelves-given freedom to selfishly stay logged in as much as I want to? Don't "rob your neighbor to make up for your mistakes," OP! Should have picked yourself up by your bootstraps and logged in earlier!

    But just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't the logic suggest that we should each get less time on weekends, not more? After all, that's when the most players are trying to log on, so it would help ensure the most people get to play to some extent.
    Exactly! Isn't a redistribution of playtime very anti-consumer and anti-freedom? I mean after all, we should be free to choose to play however long we want. Just like we're free to choose to sit in the queue or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    The only reason the queues are so large as they are, is because *everyone* who was unsubbed came back to play EW. The queues will lessen in another week or two.
    Thant will be because by then. 25-50% of the current player base will get fed-up and cancel there subs.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckerpb2 View Post
    Thant will be because by then. 25-50% of the current player base will get fed-up and cancel there subs.
    And then most likely come back in smaller waves. Like has always happened before. With every single expansion.

    Why the community is acting like this is outside the norm is beyond me. It's just scaled up from the same exact issue every expansion the game has. Either deal with it, or unsub. There is basically nothing Square can do at this point.

    Be patient, and in a week or two the queues will start to come down. Or don't, and unsub, and come back later. The game isn't going anywhere.

    Or could've done what many of us did and took time off and cleared our schedules to adjust for the mass chaos that we all knew would come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    And then most likely come back in smaller waves. Like has always happened before. With every single expansion.

    Why the community is acting like this is outside the norm is beyond me. It's just scaled up from the same exact issue every expansion the game has. Either deal with it, or unsub. There is basically nothing Square can do at this point.

    Be patient, and in a week or two the queues will start to come down. Or don't, and unsub, and come back later. The game isn't going anywhere.

    Or could've done what many of us did and took time off and cleared our schedules to adjust for the mass chaos that we all knew would come.
    many of teh people this time are new, so an expansion is a new experience here

    thats why the community, parts of it, are acting the way they are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    many of teh people this time are new, so an expansion is a new experience here

    thats why the community, parts of it, are acting the way they are
    It's not a good excuse, to be honest. I've only been playing since last December, so only a few months more than the huge wave, and even I know to look for information and to take these devs at face value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    It's not a good excuse, to be honest. I've only been playing since last December, so only a few months more than the huge wave, and even I know to look for information and to take these devs at face value.
    no, it isnt a good excuse, but really, you have to remember, a lot of those people do not have the experience here, and might be used to other game forums, where complaining at the top of your lungs is.. I dont know, therapeutic?

    early experiences with SOE taught me not to have blind trust in a gaming company regarding a game I enjoy. but, while I will never fully trust SE and business decisions, I do take the devs here at face value, and am wise enough to know there is likely a LOT of information that I may never know, nor do I need to know. besides, research online is easy enough than believing someones rant at face value.

    queues suck, no doubt, but the game is running flawlessly from my experience, so.. seems like a good launch and glad they took 2 weeks to polish the game more. (the login servers... meh... things happen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    no, it isnt a good excuse, but really, you have to remember, a lot of those people do not have the experience here, and might be used to other game forums, where complaining at the top of your lungs is.. I dont know, therapeutic?

    early experiences with SOE taught me not to have blind trust in a gaming company regarding a game I enjoy. but, while I will never fully trust SE and business decisions, I do take the devs here at face value, and am wise enough to know there is likely a LOT of information that I may never know, nor do I need to know. besides, research online is easy enough than believing someones rant at face value.

    queues suck, no doubt, but the game is running flawlessly from my experience, so.. seems like a good launch and glad they took 2 weeks to polish the game more. (the login servers... meh... things happen)
    Pretty much this.

    I think a lot of people are lumping the developer team completely together with the company that employs them. Sure, the team is most likely beholden to a lot of the company's decisions, but this dev team has earned the credit and respect they get. They are as open as they can be. They DO listen to feedback. They stumble, but they are human. They admit fault.

    The queue situation sucks for the entire community, but be patient. It WILL come down, just as it has in previous expansions. If we're all still sitting here an entire month down the line in the exact same place with queues of this size, I will be beyond surprised. It's been barely a week. Give it some time.

    Or, simply don't, and unsub, if it is THAT traumatic and your experienced is soured. No one is begging the masses to stay subbed and convincing people to stay. Everyone is free to make their own choice is this is something they want to deal with or not. Vote with your wallet and your subscription.
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    "No one agreed with me so I deleted my OP". Bloody coward.
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    "this problem doesn't affect me so everything should stay the same UWU BEANS"
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