Please enable all abilities during roulettes in 7.0.

[7agabond]

This is a huge opportunity to motivate both veterans to have fun during their roulettes and keep learning their rotations, PLUS new players to see what kind of abilities they'll get later on into the game. Something that motivated me as an early player was the abilities and cool gear. Even if there had to be balancing with lowering ability potencies when synced or stat reductions to even out the new abilities, it'd be amazing for everyone to get to see what a 90/100 class would look and feel like. I want to help my friends through dungeons and show them what a cool job they'd get at max level would be, and I also want to be able to practice my core rotation at any given point. It would be a win-win scenario for everyone.

[Rongway]

No thanks.

Allowing all learned actions in syncked duties requires one of two things:

A) At-level players will do 0.2x to 0.5x as much damage as syncked max level players because extra actions directly correlate to extra damage.
or B) Syncked max level players need to do 2x to 5x as much work as an at-level player to do the same amount of damage because syncked players need to have their damage scaled way down so as not to make at-level players' damage irrelevant.

Neither of these options is appealing.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Basically what Rongway said.

Addendum from me though - if there is anything we could or should ask for it is to have certain key abilities be available a bit sooner, but having simply all abilities available is just a balancing nightmare that is not worth it to invest time into.

Either they balance it and it was a lot of ressources arguably wasted on rebalancing for this or they don't, which basically means you want to avoid having to do roulettes with people who aren't at a high level - which goes against one of two reasons roulettes exist.

[Taiyoji]

This is a huge opportunity to motivate both veterans to have fun during their roulettes and keep learning their rotations, PLUS new players to see what kind of abilities they'll get later on into the game. Something that motivated me as an early player was the abilities and cool gear. Even if there had to be balancing with lowering ability potencies when synced or stat reductions to even out the new abilities, it'd be amazing for everyone to get to see what a 90/100 class would look and feel like. I want to help my friends through dungeons and show them what a cool job they'd get at max level would be, and I also want to be able to practice my core rotation at any given point. It would be a win-win scenario for everyone.

Guild Wars 2 does somthing like this and honestly I can’t speak for everyone but I’d flipping love if they did it.. just lower the stats like they have been and leave actions in place. *shrug* I’d much rather get to use more of my moves at a lower level for the time I put in to get them but hey that’s me.

[Shurrikhan]

or B) Syncked max level players need to do 2x to 5x as much work as an at-level player to do the same amount of damage because syncked players need to have their damage scaled way down so as not to make at-level players' damage irrelevant..

I'd happily take that option.

For myself, though. I'd have no intention of forcing that upon others.

Just put the option in the Duty Finder Settings:

Retain Skills

Retain access to all your current abilities while level-synced down. Note that the power of your individual skills will be adjusted for their increased number. While this may increase your maximum damage slightly, this will of course require you to do more work than those of significantly lower level.
⁘ This setting applies individually. It is not affected by the state set by the party leader.

[Rongway]

I'd happily take that option.

For myself, though. I'd have no intention of forcing that upon others.

The thing is, I don't really care insofar as it applies to me because I'm confident that even with the severe downscaling I'd still put out more than my fair share of damage. It might be a little annoying to have to put in the extra work, but whatever.

But I don't trust three to seven other people to play their jobs well enough that duties won't take twice as long if they get scaled down. Duties with syncked people are going to take longer on average.

[Shurrikhan]

Duties with syncked people are going to take longer on average.

I am totally fine with that. I'd gladly spend a few more minutes for it not to feel so much like a mindless chore.

[LeonKeyh]

B) Synced max level players need to do 2x to 5x as much work as an at-level player to do the same amount of damage because synced players need to have their damage scaled way down so as not to make at-level players' damage irrelevant.

This option is appealing. This one right here officer.

I'd much rather be ABLE to work harder in synced combat. If not that, then they need to clean up the leveling process. It seems like with every "rework" the 1-50 ability gain rate just gets stretched out further and further and you just get things later and later. I was playing MCH in Alliance roulettes and got LotA and forgot how ridiculously anemic the level 50 rotation is.

Hell, make it an option somewhere

"Legacy Sync" (Your stats and abilities are synced down to the level of the duty that you are doing)

"Alternative Sync" (Your stats are synced down, you keep your abilities but their effectiveness is decreased)

Balance Alternative sync around an "average" player doing the same amount that an "average" player would with the legacy sync.

I just want to be able to play the job that I'm playing at the level I have it. If I need to work 5x harder to do the same amount of damage as someone else, so be it.

[Rongway]

If I need to work 5x harder to do the same amount of damage as someone else, so be it.

Okay. Now you're in a dungeon with a tank whose cooldowns only reduce damage by 3%-15% instead of 20%-100% and a healer who can only keep the tank alive by spending all their oGCDs in the first pull and they still have to spam tier II heals once those are all gone, or it's a wipe.

Hyperbole aside, these problems compound when you have multiple people "alternative syncked" and people don't know how to use their action sets effectively.

[LeonKeyh]

Okay. Now you're in a dungeon with a tank whose cooldowns only reduce damage by 3%-15% instead of 20%-100% and a healer who can only keep the tank alive by spending all their oGCDs in the first pull and they still have to spam tier II heals once those are all gone, or it's a wipe.

Hyperbole aside, these problems compound when you have multiple people "alternative syncked" and people don't know how to use their action sets effectively.

Sounds like they shouldn't pull as much then.

You've made up a hypothetical situation where these people are 1/10th of their power instead of what would be more likely, i.e. the balance would work out so that playing in a level 40 dungeon would require the exact same (probably lesser) skill and ability use as Expert roulette. If these people are failing in this way, they would be failing in expert roulettes.