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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctemius View Post
    I get why folks are frustrated. It's totally fair, and voicing complaints is justified.

    But how much can we really expect? Big MMO launches of any kind are always extremely difficult, if not nearly impossible, to pull off without a hitch. This sucks, but it's far from the worst launches, and will inevitably settle back down given a bit of time. Which is another key point- how much should they spend expanding and improving the infrastructure, when the actual problems are only going to persist for... some weeks, maybe a month tops? It seems far more practical to beg for patience than to prepare that much more. And even if they did prepare more, it still might've not been enough, because they can't see the future.

    As a paying customer, yeah, it sucks. But it's not like they're also ignoring that. They're giving out free sub time; I, and many others, think this is a fair form of compensation. You aren't obligated to have the patience to agree, and you're certainly welcome to draw the line anyways, but they aren't spitting on their customers for daring to want to play, or forcing them to play at godawful times. They're just trying to work around a temporary problem that's very hard to address directly. Personally, I think that's good enough. Just because people aren't as frustrated about the issues doesn't mean they're white knighting SE or ignoring the problems, it just doesn't bother them as much.
    Honest valid points delivered in a respectful way. Thank you Noctemius. Apparently this is where I become disrespectful to you because of "reasons."
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    We get it, you don't accept the word of SE, just because you don't doesn't mean everyone has to feel like you.

    Right now you're arguing for the sake of arguing. Every post you have is a "reply with quote" to the point where you've even quoted your own commit. You're the one with the rebuttals for everything. It doesn't matter what people post. Step back and take a look at your own thread.

    I wish people wouldn't cater anymore to you on the matter or your posts. It's plain where this is all leading. Tip: If you want to play then right click on your name in the character select menu and ask to go to a less congested world. This may alleviate your agony somewhat and this obsession you have with anyone having a different POV other than your own.
    Now this is a clear example of being combative for absolutely no reason. Who's arguing that people must feel the same way I feel? I'm surely not. Yes, I'm quoting people. Yes I quote myself. Your point? I'm keeping this issue everyone is experiencing relevant on the forums. Then you're lying and calling it an obsession. If you honestly believe this, we can't have a reasonable conversation.
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    Last edited by Sekurity; 12-11-2021 at 05:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekurity View Post
    Yes, I'm quoting people. Yes I quote myself. Your point? I'm keeping this issue everyone is experiencing relevant on the forums. Yet lying and calling it an obsession. If you honestly believe this, we can't have a reasonable conversation.
    All I will say is good luck to you, because any other thing I say is pointless in your eyes. It is what it is.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    All I will say is good luck to you, because any other thing I say is pointless in your eyes. It is what it is.
    Fair enough. Take care.
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    I have a question for all the...I don't want to say "white knights" because not all of you are acting that way. Ill say "side 1"

    Why are you even here? I mean I know you guys have the right to be on this forum as much as anyone else here, but why is there always at least one person in one of these threads that has to immediately jump to the defense of this company? Most of the people making complaints are making them for logical reasons. If you are having no trouble with the game, or are are perfectly fine with Squares actions then good on you. But what PURPOSE does it serve to antagonize those who are having issues and are upset other than to just start shit? Is it truly impossible for you to just stay out of it it if it doesn't concern you?
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApeKing View Post
    I have a question for all the...I don't want to say "white knights" because not all of you are acting that way. Ill say "side 1"

    Why are you even here? I mean I know you guys have the right to be on this forum as much as anyone else here, but why is there always at least one person in one of these threads that has to immediately jump to the defense of this company? Most of the people making complaints are making them for logical reasons. If you are having no trouble with the game, or are are perfectly fine with Squares actions then good on you. But what PURPOSE does it serve to antagonize those who are having issues and are upset other than to just start shit? Is it truly impossible for you to just stay out of it it if it doesn't concern you?
    I couldn't agree with you more. Im defending myself against lies and disrespect, yet we continue to get people coming in here, flipping to the last page, and judging this whole thread on the very last postings. Yet I'm the one in the wrong for some reason.
    But apparently, responding to people on your own post is somehow an obsession.
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  7. #127
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    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keman View Post
    The problem will not be resolved by itself. The deception of users is already now. They collected money and are not going to fulfill the services for which they received money. It is strange that you encourage violation of the law. And it is a pity that you and the like you can not bring to justice as you deserve.
    They have not deceived the consumer... They stated prior to pre-order sales being processed that due to the inability to secure server hardware, there would likely be login issues. They actually said it multiple times. They also haven't broken any laws. Nice try at inciting a witch hunt, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
    I'd like to think better of this community but its very hard not to see it this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    People.... It's become an ongoing troll by the same individuals.
    Briggs! I was wondering when you were going to swing by. Please, enlighten these people with your words of wisdom.
    Since when did expressing your concerns on the forums become trolling?
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