2nd night unable to play because of LONG queue times

[Sekurity]

Cool, calm, and collected.

[Ayeffle]

This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.

[raunyyyc]

This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.

The only thing you can really do is get on early in the day and stay on. If you don't have the ability to do that, there's not much else you can do. That's what I did all last weekend.

The queues are still booting people and not saving their position. I know that because it just happened to me.

[basilbc]

This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.

It's not really a solution or tip, and I totally agree that this sucks, but I think just take the weekend off before you make any decisions about your future with the game. I spent today not even trying to queue and it did do me a lot of good. (And I was in the same emotional boat as you, about 5 minutes away from unsubbing, etc) As frustrating as this is, I sincerely think there's not much that can be done in the immediate future about it, unfortunately.

[Ayeffle]

Yeah I do hear you and you raise a great point. Its just frustrating, i'll try another server if this keeps up for a couple more days.. I appreciate your comments basil.

[renachi]

Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

Change your sleep schedule so you are awake to play the game when the queues are gone. If you are running into the queue on weekdays it means you play in the afternoon-evnings, so just got to be when off work and play after you wake back up as the queues are basically gone then

[Hawuhawuu]

The queues will increase in the next month, they wont be able to source much before Jan. Its a deal with it or take a break situation. Christmas people will have more time off and more people will get new hardware and accessability to the game or just gifted it. People will afk more to not get logged out. Jan will be the new savage tier which will drive up the afks. SE wont feel serious pressure to get the servers until mid Jan /early Feb when backlash from the community happens. People wont be able to log on after work and participate in their statics which will cause communities to crumble. There will be a lot of negativety at that point and they will start to scramble at all costs to fix it.

[Yahallo]

My worry is that people like you that give games a pass because simply we can play it later is setting a stage for where gaming companies don't have to care how they release a game as long as they put an agreement to cover their butt.

The main reason why there are people giving FFXIV the pass is because of the chip shortage and how it makes getting server hardware near impossible, despite OP's claims. If the chip shortage didn't exist, you would see more uniform criticism. However the chip shortage does exist, there are no practical solutions that they can do due to the chip shortage, and they warned people well ahead of time of the likely hood of the current situation.

[souldonut81]

The main reason why there are people giving FFXIV the pass is because of the chip shortage and how it makes getting server hardware near impossible, despite OP's claims. If the chip shortage didn't exist, you would see more uniform criticism. However the chip shortage does exist, there are no practical solutions that they can do due to the chip shortage, and they warned people well ahead of time of the likely hood of the current situation.

Im sorry but i totally disagree with you. Wow has been able to solve this problem with sharding and virtual machines since like 2014. The fact that SE was too cheap to develop that capacity is on them. The chip shortage has been going on for over a year, and basically Yoshi put up a post (after i had already purchased endwalker) saying o "oh poopies server on fire". Now they are saying a fix is months out. This represents that SE decided to let their server infrastructure launch a new expansion with zero capacity for returning players. It doesn't get much more business stupid than that, and its a shame because they have a very high quality product here. SE deserves every bit of negative feedback they are getting and the community should NOT be understanding. Technology exists out there to solve this problem, they chose not to purchase it, and they expect us to pay for that decision with our time. A little boohoo from Yoshi doesn't change that, and he should be as mad about it as we are.

[Yahallo]

Im sorry but i totally disagree with you. Wow has been able to solve this problem with sharding and virtual machines since like 2014. The fact that SE was too cheap to develop that capacity is on them. The chip shortage has been going on for over a year, and basically Yoshi put up a post (after i had already purchased endwalker) saying o "oh poopies server on fire". Now they are saying a fix is months out. This represents that SE decided to let their server infrastructure launch a new expansion with zero capacity for returning players. It doesn't get much more business stupid than that, and its a shame because they have a very high quality product here. SE deserves every bit of negative feedback they are getting and the community should NOT be understanding. Technology exists out there to solve this problem, they chose not to purchase it, and they expect us to pay for that decision with our time. A little boohoo from Yoshi doesn't change that, and he should be as mad about it as we are.

I'm sorry but saying that the community shouldn't be understanding is just entitlement. At the very least Yoshi P and the dev team deserve our understanding as I am pretty sure they are not happy with the situation either.

I participated in WoW Legion's launch and remember the usual early expansion issues so I wouldn't say they solved the problem since 2014. Also, the issue only became severe when the 5.5 wave of WoW refugees appeared, that was the main point when FFXIV's population growth exceeded their expectations by an unprecedented margin and it happened this year in the summer. If the numbers were around their projected numbers, we would probably see another Shadowbringers level of launch. Furthermore, the current setup for the servers allowed for an incredibly smooth experience once you are in game. The main reason why queues are long is due to the number of people wanting to play exceeding the limit of each world, which is set at a specific limit to ensure the game runs smooth. Regardless of tricks like sharding and virtual machines, there is still a hardware limit.

The main issue people are stating are 2002's during queue. However, based on the explanation for it, where it is caused by network instaibility/packet loss which is related to the amount of network traffic, how someone's connection is routed by their ISP, etc. It sounds like a fundamental networking issue rather than a FFXIV specific problem. The only real solution is either waiting for less players or more hardware.

Furthermore, you had a chance to refund the Endwalker expansion, even if you only listened into the last announcement they made before Endwalker, you had a month to let your sub lapse. The Yoshi P and the FFXIV devs have gone well out of their way when you consider how most other games handle these type of situations.

Fact is, there are no practical solutions. I suspect this so called "fix" is just a bandage fix or is sacrificing some sort of server stability to try to accommodate additional people. Unless they were able to acquire the server hardware they needed somehow, I don't think much will change. We can look at the result of the last fix, where they just increased the capacity for the login queues. It honestly didn't really do much as the fundamental problems still existed with there being just too many people trying to login and not enough space in the game servers to accommodate everyone, thus people are stuck in the queue longer and there is such a large amount that it increases the chances of things like collisions.