So Long, and thanks for eating all my fish!! (Race Bonus thread)

[Duelle]

FFXIV is in dire need of some form of Racial Activity's/Bonuses to allow Diversity in Eorzea. i do not know if this is planed for 2.0, but it needs to happen on launch of 2.0.

Sorry, but no. I got sick of racial differences after getting bombarded with "lol u r a taru u shuld b mage n0t pld l0lz".

In PVE, the fights were too varied for any single racial ability to make a difference. The debuff removal from Gnomes, Forsaken and Humans let them swap out a trinket for a very minor (<2%) performance boost.

True. The only time my gnome's Escape Artist ability saw use was whenever we had bosses that had roots or snares. Something minor I guess would be nice, just nothing like massive stat discrepancies, which is what FFXI used.

[Mushy]

maybe if they were a racial BONUS and not a racial HINDRANCE like we saw with races in FFXI. I forgot exactly, but didn't the original everquest have distinct bonuses that didn't prevent you from anything(i know you could only choose certain classes but besides that) things like longer breath under water, better night vision, longer sprinting. none of these things are truly needed since the default level is sufficient so what you get is a bonus. now leave it up to the devs to figure out things to fit what could be a bonus in this game(because its not stats gear and materia do all that.) So what kinds of things could be a bonus? we know jumping is coming so the cats can jump a few steps higher? the lalafell can crawl through small cracks to spots in dungeon where the other races would need to go around.. I dont know what can y'all think of?

[Zyph]

maybe if they were a racial BONUS and not a racial HINDRANCE like we say with races in FFXI. I forgot exactly, but didn't the original everquest have distinct bonuses that didn't prevent you from anything(i know you could only choose certain classes but besides that) things like longer breath under water, better night vision, longer sprinting. none of these things are truly needed since the default level is sufficient so what you get is a bonus. now leave it up to the devs to figure out things to fit what could be a bonus in this game(because its not stats gear and materia do all that.) So what kinds of things could be a bonus? we know jumping is coming so the cats can jump a few steps higher? the lalafell can crawl through small cracks to spots in dungeon where the other races would need to go around.. I dont know what can y'all think of?

The highest stat will always be considered the ceiling, and every stat lower will be considered the hindrance.

[Mushy]

The highest stat will always be considered the ceiling, and every stat lower will be considered the hindrance.

the starting stats are already different and no one notices.. again I said for it not to be the stats since gear and materia are for that, did you read my post?

[Elexia]

Lol i swear she has the whole FF 11 lore bookmarked somewhere lol.

Once again it's easy to find information for a game people actually care about. If people cared about XIV as much as they did other MMOs you'd be able to find information a lot more readily as well. No bookmarks necessary.

Please no, racial choice should be cosmetic only imo, I'd rather not have a repeat of the nonsense that was FFXI's racial system and the way the community handled it tyvm.

Go into the character creator of XIV and look at the stat differences between clans (if available)..it already exists in this game it's just the way stats work they really have nil impact on anything, much like in XI it had zero impact on anything but the absolute early levels (lower mp base = obviously less spell casting = less things dead) but once you hit around the cap (75, 76-99 the stat raises does very little for you) any racial difference is nil due to the gear options and merits. A taru blm can be just as shitty as a galka blm, the taru would have a higher MP base and therefore produce more shit whereas a good Galka BLM will have a smaller MP base but not suck.

I've seen better Galka mages than Taru mages due to the fact THE COMMUNITY are hardcoded to believe the tiniest of details matters when the game mechanics doesn't necessarily tell you 1 race will suck compared to another.

the starting stats are already different and no one notices.. again I said for it not to be the stats since gear and materia are for that, did you read my post?

Or a player that never created a character in the past year.

[Firon]

Once again it's easy to find information for a game people actually care about. If people cared about XIV as much as they did other MMOs you'd be able to find information a lot more readily as well. No bookmarks necessary.



Go into the character creator of XIV and look at the stat differences between clans (if available)..it already exists in this game it's just the way stats work they really have nil impact on anything, much like in XI it had zero impact on anything but the absolute early levels (lower mp base = obviously less spell casting = less things dead) but once you hit around the cap (75, 76-99 the stat raises does very little for you) any racial difference is nil due to the gear options and merits. A taru blm can be just as shitty as a galka blm, the taru would have a higher MP base and therefore produce more shit whereas a good Galka BLM will have a smaller MP base but not suck.

I've seen better Galka mages than Taru mages due to the fact THE COMMUNITY are hardcoded to believe the tiniest of details matters when the game mechanics doesn't necessarily tell you 1 race will suck compared to another.



Or a player that never created a character in the past year.

No other race could beat a taru blm in dmg while wearing the same gear. Never seen any other race break damn near raw 4k freeze before the 75 cap was lifted. Also taru and mithra plds was pretty bad cause of lower hp pools. Most plds in XI was either Hume and Elf cause they had the best stats for it.

[Ricky]

There will always be too many cats in the game

[Mushy]

galkas(roes) were always ugly(offense intended) the lack of tail only looks better...

[MrKupo]

I want to roll Lala regardless of how it effects gameplay. The problem would be, then, that if stats did effect according to race, those of us that like a certain race will be forced to use other races for jobs that we like. If your suggestion thread succeeds, it will only spawn much more complaint threads.

[Elexia]

I want to roll Lala regardless of how it effects gameplay. The problem would be, then, that if stats did effect according to race, those of us that like a certain race will be forced to use other races for jobs that we like. If your suggestion thread succeeds, it will only spawn much more complaint threads.

Not really....it just means you have to pay more attention to what you're doing instead of slacking off and hoping your racial bonus to x stat will cover for your laziness.

Am I the only one who enjoys overcoming adverse odds? In FFXI I would roll a Galka White Mage for the challenge of proving myself. I would level PUP and BST and DRG and BLU and other lolClasses because I wanted to prove that I'm not some slouch who can't be useful.

I know this isn't everyone else's mindset, so it can't really be used as an argument for racial stat bonuseshindrances. But still...

Does that make me a masochist?

No, since it's something you want to do and enjoy doing. Being a masochist would mean you enjoy doing stuff that pains you to do.