I want to ask something (SPOILERS FOR EW MSQ)

[PerrinTaveren]

SPOILERS AHEAD SO DON'T READ IF YOU DIDN'T FINISH MSQ TILL LV89.



I may be dumb to understand but there is something that bugs me. We are told Zodiark has been summoned to prevent the final days. But the flashback confirmed it kinda didn't? (the flashback where Venat had to sunder people). So okay, Venat sunders people (still don't get why, like why would it stop final days?) and she creates Hydaelyn. Though why? Anyways, Hydaelyn imprisons Zodiark and creates world anew, i think. But why does impriosining Zodiark stops final days? I don't get this. What did she do to stop it? If final days are a result of emotions and Metetion, why did imprisoning Zodiark stop it? Like, what did Hydaelyn do to stop the progression of this? I might be dumb and missed a plot point but i don't think it is explained why Zodiark stops Metetion in some way? We learned she can erase people and make them not being born. So she is kinda a bigger threat than Zodiark himself. I don't get how a primal summoned stops the final days tbh.

[van_arn]

Zodiark halts the Final Days, Hydaelyn puts him in stasis so he will continue doing that.

The details of what the Final Days are were explained on the moon, along with Zodiark/Hydaelyn's contributions.

Think of the two primals as machines. Zodiark creates a barrier, Hydaelyn maintains him and ensures he operates within spec by way of stasis and sundering.

Meteon isn't stopped by Zodiark. It's more that Zodiark wards against her influence while she's out of reach in deep space.

This is why everything gets exciting so soon after Zodiark goes poof.

[Sorimachi87]

Thanks to Fandaniel we were forced to kill zodiark which actually started the ball rolling about the final days...

[PerrinTaveren]

yeah i get that but i don't get why zodiark prevented final days. like what did he actually do? we were just said "it was summoned and that stopped final days" but how? if final days is caused by a different force that being dynamis, what do they do to stop it?

[EusisLandale]

yeah i get that but i don't get why zodiark prevented final days. like what did he actually do? we were just said "it was summoned and that stopped final days" but how? if final days is caused by a different force that being dynamis, what do they do to stop it?

There are gaps in the world's aether, which is where dynamis can more strongly influence things. Darkness is about growth and change, meaning that while he's doing what he's doing those gaps are not left open long enough, if at all, for her to do anything.
The sundering was more a double edged deal not entirely relevant to what Zodiark was doing if I recall correctly, wasn't fully awake by the time some of the stuff was explained. By reducing the aether that people have they become more vulnerable to dynamis, but can also make use of it to have a fighting chance.

[PerrinTaveren]

There are gaps in the world's aether, which is where dynamis can more strongly influence things. Darkness is about growth and change, meaning that while he's doing what he's doing those gaps are not left open long enough, if at all, for her to do anything.
The sundering was more a double edged deal not entirely relevant to what Zodiark was doing if I recall correctly, wasn't fully awake by the time some of the stuff was explained. By reducing the aether that people have they become more vulnerable to dynamis, but can also make use of it to have a fighting chance.

that would suggest aether is more powerful than dynamis since dynamis cannot effect the places where aether is strong. but then again it corrupts people's aether and turn them into beasts. so it suggests it can destroy aether within people but it cannot destroy world's aether?

[EusisLandale]

that would suggest aether is more powerful than dynamis since dynamis cannot effect the places where aether is strong. but then again it corrupts people's aether and turn them into beasts. so it suggests it can destroy aether within people but it cannot destroy world's aether?

Aether is more powerful only due to the volume of it. Think of it like water and fire. A little bit of water will be evaporated by fire, a lot of water will douse the fire. All dynamis could do to the ancients was cause misfiring of their magics, which admittedly can be pretty awful when said magic is "playing god". Modern people, lacking in aether, can be torn apart by it instead. This is why it's double edged that they're sundered. Less aether means crap like that happens once the planet's aether is out of the way by removing Zodiark, but on the other hand it's why there's even a chance to fight back since modern people can make use of dynamis themselves.

[Raige]

yeah i get that but i don't get why zodiark prevented final days. like what did he actually do? we were just said "it was summoned and that stopped final days" but how? if final days is caused by a different force that being dynamis, what do they do to stop it?

The astral aether, the most outer source of the planet was weakened during the events on the moon. Not sure if i should continue as it would reach level 90 territory.

Think of the aether sorrounding the planet as a protective shield against influences from space. Kinda like our magnetic field on earth.

SPOILERS
As Sorimachi87 touches on, Aether cannot interact with Dynamis and Dynamis cannot permeate dense Aether. Zodiark was an Aether producing battery providing a shield to not allow the Dynamis energies to to seep into our world. Once that shield was removed, as you know, the effects of Dynamis and bird girl's influence over it started taking form on our world.

[PerrinTaveren]

My question is that though. How do they halt or prevent final days if it is caused by Metetion? It is not logical to think she just sits at ultima thule and waits for Zodiark to die. She could have killed them herself since she really wants every existence to die (or rather not born). But we don't get an explanation why summoning these primals prevents final days. Like what is their deal to prevent dynamis?

[van_arn]

My question is that though. How do they halt or prevent final days if it is caused by Metetion? It is not logical to think she just sits at ultima thule and waits for Zodiark to die. She could have killed them herself since she really wants every existence to die (or rather not born). But we don't get an explanation why summoning these primals prevents final days. Like what is their deal to prevent dynamis?

I'd suggest getting up to the final boss to understand more of Metetion's reason for inaction, but I'll point to a vague trope of the overconfident villain.