Can I get Firehouse to make me sandwiches made from said virgin goats?
#3? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



This is exactly why I have trouble taking a lot of the complaints seriously. You're not even on topic -- this is just pointless angry noise like half the stuff on the forums these days. Lots of people have legitimate cause to be annoyed right now, but it's easily buried under mountains of random malding and insanity. For every reasonable comment, there are six more people screaming about "why don't they just buy used servers off Ebay" or "covid can't be cited as excuse since it's a government hoax" or "we need to lawyer up and sue Square Enix in a class action suit!"
Or there's the people screeching about how 7 days of game time is "not enough," even though it hasn't even been 7 days since early access began and Yoshi-P has already stated they may give back even more game time as the situation develops. Not to mention the obsession over petty semantics like "don't call it free time, it's not free because we paid for it," as if harping on something as minor as word choice is really what's important.
Oh right, and the childish name-calling of anybody who does happen to be lucky enough to get into the game, or is able to play during off-peak hours. Supposedly they're all terminally unemployed NEET virgins with no life who live in their mother's basement.
Now we've just resorted to "Say the game is bad, and you're bad for playing it." Sorry, but no.


They seemed to have gotten the 2002 errors under control. We still can only hope the queue times improve as logging in on a sunday with 6k+ ahead of you on a queue is not a great experience. It mostly comes down to the question of whether the person can start the login process at a point where they can be assured they can get in and play. If someone is going into work and doesn't get back until 5pm, then has to hit a login queue that takes 2 hours to complete or more, he'd probably have to start the login immediately if he plans to play at 7pm. Then you have to account for the possibility you get in sooner before you're ready, and then you have to fight to keep yourself in the game while doing your daily tasks.
I knew people who started logging in at around 7pm and by the time they got in they could do maybe 20-30 minutes and had to log since it got so late at night. Like 9:30 pm and they have work at 7 am.
I just refunded the game through Steam myself today.
I have been able to play about 2 hours in the last 5 days, due to queue times, which if they are being honest due to the chip shortage, won't be alleviated any time soon, it at all.
There is no rage from me, but for me personally, the 2002 error was the last straw. I don't mind a 10k queue, gives me an idea of how long it will take, and I go and do something else in the meantime, like watch TV in the living room. But coming back after 4 hours of waiting to discover I have been booted because of some arbitrary system in place to prevent over-logging is beyond ridiculous. Just prevent new people from logging in, don't boot everyone (and don't say you can log back in, I am not sitting on front of my PC for 4 hours to play a game just in case the queue gets stopped).
So, I just refunded, and might come back in a few months when it is discounted and actually playable.
I personally do not blame the Developers at all, they have delivered a quality product time and time again, and FF14 is incredible. I *do* however, blame Square Enix the publisher for heavily pushing a game they must have known was going to be beyond popular, knowing full well their server capacity couldn't handle it, and with no way to get new servers as back ups or online due to shortages.
Basically, smacks to me like they just wanted a large quarterly boost to profits, and damn the consequences, as there will always be apologists.
Put it this way. If you bought a new car, that required you to be authorised to be able to open the door and turn it on, but the authorisation server was so backed up because the car was so popular and could only use it for say a couple of hours a day, as otherwise you were physically locked out, or you had to queue for a long period of time, and then found you were booted to had to initiate a queue again to open the door, would you find this acceptable, or would you return the product and ask for a refund? The answer is obvious, so no idea why people defend it when it comes to an online game. It is just insane. It is basic consumer rights, if you cannot utilise the product you paid for, then you are entitled to a refund, any of their quasi-legal nonsense be damned.
That's all I have done, I suggest people ranting do the same, because that is literally the only thing the publisher is concerned with, as anything else is just smoke they don't care about.
If you are fine with the queues, then that is also your consumer right, and more power to you, because for me, it is just unacceptable (PS, played since launch of ARR so not a new player).
Last edited by Cyanyde; 12-09-2021 at 06:04 AM.
I have no rage, I expected this. They warned us this might happen. I've had a small queue to get into my server almost everyday for the last few months, I knew the queue would skyrocket come release, It has at every expansion launch I have experienced here and in WoW.



Not that I am raging, but if I was, then only the return of Nocturnal Sect would quell my tantrum.

Honestly, the only compensation I wanted has already been provided: an explanation of what's going on and what they're doing to try to mitigate it. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
[Signature will be done once I figure out what to put in it.]
No compensation needed. It is what it is. I think I already like this expansion more than ShB's start so there's that. Queue is a bit frustrating though. Hope you guys waiting in queue get to play at some point.![]()

are long queue times frustrating? Yes, I spent over 3 hours in queue yesterday. I use the time to spend it being productive, spend time with my cats, clean, cook, do some extra work, spend time with family. The game isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Computers have limitations, and I understand the game is insanely popular right now. These queues will subside with time
If they are offering any compensation outside of additional free playtime though, I would not mind that lunar whale mount for free though :P
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