What type of compensation would quite your rage?

[Mialee]

As a vet from ARR and Sb but SB was far worse we could not even continue the story because of the issues.

Yeah but for how long? Been 5 day and i't nowhere near to be resolve this time? I asked for a sub extension and I got it and I am assuming they will annonce another 7 days soon cause it's not much better.

[Captain_Red]

How were things during ARR or SB? Was there queues in the multiple 1000s? How long did it take to become reasonable queues (hundreds or so)?

[Ronivan]

How were things during ARR or SB? Was there queues in the multiple 1000s? How long did it take to become reasonable queues (hundreds or so)?

During Shadowbringers I remember I experienced queue like 1800 or so during the first day. I don't recall any 2002 errors. Two or three later after the release there were queues like 200 or so until it was gone. From what I have seen, it may be related with the number of people trying to get in, not those already inside the game, since when inside there is not a single issue, at least for me.
Indeed its lkely related to the wow exodus, which in itself is a good thing, we are able to get more people; but I cannot comment that SE should have at least tried to mitigate this issue beforehand.

[Sorimachi87]

Unpopular opinion for this thread:

None because i am not raging at all. The team is doing whatever they can to fix this issue. Actually using their own servers to help with the queue and now doing a 4 hour maintenance are only two things out of many they did before launch.
I understand you though, having for example only 1-2 hours time for playing.. its just not possible with the queue currently.

But with the bunch of new players coming and endwalker launch, this situation was to be expected. Give it time and it'll normalize.

[A_moth_called_rose]

compensation? nah - I just want the game have stable operation.

[juicybug]

im not angry... i mean, a little frustrated they werent more prepared but- there is only so much a game company can do when things are in short supply bc of a global pandemic

i would like Alisaie's new outfit tho
and Lyse's hair

[SenorPatty]

For me, just extended subscription time until things abate would work. I've gone from playing 4-5hrs daily to 2-3hrs and I still don't really know what this weekend is gonna be like.

That or Fantasia.

[OzumaKuma]

Anger is a valid emotion in life. Allow people to be angry so they can move forward.

[Saefinn]

Anger is a valid emotion in life. Allow people to be angry so they can move forward.

I don't mind people being frustrated, it is a valid emotion. It is annoying that this is happening, it affects most of us to some to degree, some worse than others.

But at least direct those frustrations and anger appropriately.

Is directing it at the devs reasonable? Who can only do so much about an issue where the resolution is out of their hands appropriate, which they have been transparent about? No. We know they read the forums for feedback.

Is it reasonable to refuse to accept their reasoning for the problems thinking they should do better? No, because that's just denying reality.

Is going out demanding compensation, refunds etc. an appropriate response? Personally no because it's a temporary inconvenience, but if you want a refund then just go through the proper channels if you are entitled to one, it's your prerogative. If you are not, then you'll no doubt have agreed to terms that prevent you from doing that. Tough luck, read the terms of agreement beforehand, nobody does, but sometimes that's the consequence for no doing so.

Is calling people white knights for defending the devs appropriate? No. Especially given we can give tangible reasons for doing so. Rather than falling back on fanboying a precious dev team and fighting their corner, if it was that, then yeah I'd understand the use of the term 'white knight'.
Yes, I admit I have referred to some as Karens, but only those who have acted in the manner tied to the label.

Many are frustrated, annoyed and angry, but not all of them are being unreasonable about it. For those who are being reasonable, I can empathise. For those who aren't, I will not.

[EVHTOL]

I would like my time back I spent reading these threads :P It's launch time... get over it maybe?