[ENDWALKER SPOILER!] On Zenos

[Alleo]

Zenos being a shard of Azem cant be happening since Hythlo saw him on the moon and commented on seeing Fandaniels soul and then mentioned that there is a second one with him that he does not recognize but who is very dangerous. Of course theoretically they could have lied to us at that moment but for what reason? Especially since there is a very high chance that he is now staying death.

And if he was Azems soul shard wouldnt he already have the abilitily to awaken to the echo?

IMO the point with his dreams might have been a possible plot point that simply got dropped because it did not fit the expansion.

[QT_Melon]

Zenos being a shard of Azem cant be happening since Hythlo saw him on the moon and commented on seeing Fandaniels soul and then mentioned that there is a second one with him that he does not recognize but who is very dangerous. Of course theoretically they could have lied to us at that moment but for what reason? Especially since there is a very high chance that he is now staying death.

And if he was Azems soul shard wouldnt he already have the abilitily to awaken to the echo?

IMO the point with his dreams might have been a possible plot point that simply got dropped because it did not fit the expansion.

Thank you for reminding me about Hythlodaeus ...I knew I remembered someone mentioning they couldn't recognize him soul-wise but playing in the wee hours to get on from Lobby 2002 extreme some of this wasn't coming up to mind immediately

However, I don't think they may entirely drop that plot point. I mean the other thing that was brought up...

Were the theories of what happens to the soul upon death which we only got a taste of theories from Sharlayan. We can say Zenos is dead but still can say it's not the entire end for him which might be even worse since we don't have Hydaelyn in the aetherial sea. Even then, we already saw the weird resurrection that wasn't entirely explained why he was able to come back. Then we do have the fact that the Ascians that were unsundered had the ability to restore memories to the ones that were. Perhaps the experiment was that Emet wanted to create a way for those base memories to return even after death with less of their intervention...The fact that Zenos still had memories of the Final days may have made him more viable as a test subject.