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    Why can't people understand that it takes time to figure out what is causing an issue? Then once you've identified it, it takes time to come up with the solution. Then it takes more time to see if the solution has completely resolved the issue or not.
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    Honestly the videogame community might be to blame here in a way, though.

    So, you have to do something else for a while.

    Play a different game. But then you're way behind on EW.

    Play on a XIV server that's low pop (as I have), although with transfers locked that means you have to start over with ARR (unless you boost, which I really don't recommend because such a server is going to be on the less popular JP datacenters, where you'll want the ordinary MSQ development time to acclimate to Eastern gaming norms. They are not the same as NA norms, in particular the pace is quite a bit more sedate. Just did Copperbell normal on my JP lowbie and over there, for instance, they actually kill every mob, we do not do the leash reset skip there) and again you'll be way behind on EW. At least you'll probably get to be level 90 out of the gate for it though the way that leveling pace is now, seeing that an alt I started on Primal mid ShB (and did not get a server EXP boost on!) hit 80 before even finishing the 4.0 MSQ

    The general thread here is, you're way behind on EW.

    And that's where catcalls like GCBTW are going to come in. From a solo standpoint, this is mostly fine. If you only do story modes, you may not even notice much difference! But -

    a, when you do get to EW, the content won't be considered "new" anymore. You'll routinely get thrown into DF with people that already want speedruns, and get an echo of the current treatment I've seen in threads (where people who are lucky with the Queues tell people who are persistently unlucky "it's fine, stop whining") as they get told "keep up, respect our time, stop whining" with a dash of "well you should have done it when it came out ..."

    b, people will have stopped being able to contain their excitement and begun to gush spoilers everywhere like an oil spill, so no more story surprises for you unless you not only accept you've fallen behind, but also pretty much shut yourself off socially from your fellow gamers altogether for however long it takes. (Meanwhile, as someone who in the genre overall is what's called a "patient gamer" I can attest that when YOU get there and try gushing over it, you'll be told ... "Yeah, we know, nobody cares anymore" and basically considered an annoyance for resurrecting done discussions.)

    c, when you get to endgame content, you'll have missed out on the initial tolerant PF learning rush for a while, meaning you will be stuck in the hell of groups that couldn't hack it while the people that can, sit within their ivory walls of Duty Complete. Should you form own groups and try to be a "good" person, you'll have P1 down to the point that you get tetris effect dreams in your sleep (seriously, I have had PUG progress crawls so bad at times that I literally closed my eyes to sleep and saw waymarks), yet still not be able to improve your situation reliably, unless you resort to the rather gauche-feeling behavior that is "clear for one."
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    I dunno what OP is on. I was online during the maintenance.
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    You should know better. We software engineers don't work on every thread of a product. You know full well that Mogstation/revenue system expertise is completely different than server management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    You should know better. We software engineers don't work on every thread of a product. You know full well that Mogstation/revenue system expertise is completely different than server management.
    And it’s most likely handled by a different team within the FFXIV team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viirin View Post
    Why can't people understand that it takes time to figure out what is causing an issue? Then once you've identified it, it takes time to come up with the solution. Then it takes more time to see if the solution has completely resolved the issue or not.
    “Just press the magic button!”
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    ...meanwhile the login server has had 0 maintenance and still kicks people out randomly.

    Glad to see where the priorities lie!
    Does whoever your shilling for pay you by the word and or by post made ?
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    I mean, if there purpose of these threads was to inform of problems occurring, they'd wouldn't be loaded. They're here instead to direct their frustrations at the devs.

    A thread that's made to inform:
    "I am consistently getting 2002 errors when in queue, the queue is around 4500"

    A thread that made to direct frustration at the devs:
    "Mogstation got 4 Maintenances since EW launch
    ...meanwhile the login server has had 0 maintenance and still kicks people out randomly.

    Glad to see where the priorities lie!"

    Though the core of the issues the devs were already aware of, have been transparent about even leading up to Endwalker. The extent of the issues to come out of it means they are working on it now.

    And they've already shown they're aware of the issues. But now that Yoshi P has put up a detailed update with the issues they're aware of, of the causes and of the ways they're working to alleviate those problems and has gone into pretty good detail, I expect we're going to see these "informative" posts and threads stop?
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