Enough is enough

[Darksummoner]

... The errors have been explained.
The congestion has been explained.
They have apologised.
They have given out free subscription days.

It does work, I'm playing right now.

This has to be the most selfish shit I have ever read. Like damn. So because you can get in and play, the system just has to be great.

I love Yoshi-P and Square-Enix but their log in system is straight trash...end of the discussion.

[Yhisa]

I've read that post in it's entirety and there is absolutely nothing on how they intend to resolve the 2002 error. Players were given a temporary solution of hardwiring their routers but other people have already debunked that solution as useless.

The 2002 error can legit be from "weather" a "faulty" wire in a line or problems with "ISP" basically its an "outside" source which us causing the 2002 error which they physically cannot fix

I havent had a single 2002 error and my connection is always excellent and it doesnt even drop in game aswell , however my friends have had it a few times and i know they gave faulty connections anyway because they DC in raids or within the world (their voice even goes robotic and also get kicked from discord)

But even these friends will blame the server even when its clearly their own internet or something is going on with their area like a blackout in the next county over

[Kanzer]

The 2002 error can legit be from "weather" a "faulty" wire in a line or problems with "ISP" basically its an "outside" source which us causing the 2002 error which they physically cannot fix

I havent had a single 2002 error and my connection is always excellent and it doesnt even drop in game aswell , however my friends have had it a few times and i know they gave faulty connections anyway because they DC in raids or within the world (their voice even goes robotic and also get kicked from discord)

But even these friends will blame the server even when its clearly their own internet or something is going on with their area like a blackout in the next county over

That's a tired old argument. Lots of online games are able to keep players with faulty connections online.

And even then, it simply isn't true.

I have a 45 ms ping with my server, and absolutely zero packet loss. I never DC in raids. My connection is always 'excellent' yet I get 2002ed like crazy.

Other companies who aren't as big as SE are able to have the networking infrastructure to deal with this kind of thing, them still not improving their system even after all this time is just not excusable anymore. I'm tired of them blaming ISPs when it's clearly 'their' problem.

[Remx]

The 2002 error can legit be from "weather" a "faulty" wire in a line or problems with "ISP" basically its an "outside" source which us causing the 2002 error which they physically cannot fix

I havent had a single 2002 error and my connection is always excellent and it doesnt even drop in game aswell , however my friends have had it a few times and i know they gave faulty connections anyway because they DC in raids or within the world (their voice even goes robotic and also get kicked from discord)

But even these friends will blame the server even when its clearly their own internet or something is going on with their area like a blackout in the next county over

That is unfortunate for your friends. While I cannot speak for them or others, I can attest that my ISP hasn't changed in years and I haven't had constant disconnections with absolutely any other game except this one.

I also feel that even with your friends and other people perhaps having that 'one faulty wire' or some other outside issue going on, SE servers shouldn't require top-of-the-line hardwired connections in order to play, as I'm sure people wouldn't be so outraged if this was a common issue we experience with other services and the problem truly just was a hardware issue on our end.

[Darksummoner]

Here is the deal. I am seeing a bunch of shitty responses in this thread.

Not all of us can log in and have fun. Kudos do those who can. May the Lord bless you. All of our stories are different as to how long we can play and how long it takes us to log in.

For instance for me, I work for 8 hours and after work I have 3 hours to play for bedtime. I go to sleep early around 8P.M to get up in the morning at 3A.M for the gym. Then get back 6 A.M. to get ready for work. So my schedule is tight as is.

Today when I got home from work I have spent most of those 3 hours trying to log in. It is near my bed time. If I want to play then I need to say to hell with the gym. Just to play for a hour or so.

So yeah Yoshi-P needs to fix this crap. Not sure how else to say it. I mean he can just keep giving out free time. But that is not really beneficial to his company. So yeah.

[Remx]

My bigger issue with all of these incredibly inconveniencing workarounds and weak compensations is just... why the hell would I EVER want to pre-order a Square Enix product again?

If we are supposed to be okay with this and just expect massive instability on releases to the point we are being recommended to stop even trying to play, what is the incentive for players to bother pre-ordering again in the future? I'm not sure if an earring and a minion are going to convince me to deal with frustration like this again.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Zero of these issues so far on Zalera.

The joys of a lower pop server.

[Myrany]

Zero of these issues so far on Zalera.

The joys of a lower pop server.

Not true. I have run into issues repeatedly on Zalera.

Yes early morning you can get in real fast. Not so much later in the day. Tonight I cant even get to the point where I can choose a Data center without 2002 out of the game.

[Hayden]

Que sucks...it sucked in 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 and it'll suck 7.0

We deal with it, or we move on.

[Thoosa]

So yesterday was the first day I managed to play. Logged in lunchtime and had a queue of 200 or something, then after 5 was 5000 and took two hours to get on.

I tried on the weekend and it was a joke - 6000+ queue and then many 2002 errors and no matter how fast I logged back in, my queue position was reset so I just gave up and played wow.

This situation is far more annoying for people who have to plan their play time so sitting in a queue and having to babysit it so you don’t lose position (when you could be doing something else) is bad and a waste of time.

I also think the semi-conductor thing is a bit of a weak excuse - we have things called cloud providers these days who can scale load meaning you could reduce queue times and errors and make things more stable. Hell, not every part of it could be on cloud, but at least the login servers.

Imo this launch is a lot worse than shadowbringers and stormblood - at least you could log in and if there were bugs with the msq you could do other stuff until they were fixed.

And for those who say “it works for me, no queues, finished the msq already” - congrats, your experience isn’t everyone’s experience and the majority so far seem to be having queue problems. It doesn’t make this issue suddenly not exist.