Read me if you're frustrated about 2002 and 90002

[Belisaire]

Queues are fine, the errors are not fine. Especially if you get hit with 2002 while in the queue. It is not "unstable internet." I fall out of the queue with DL of 400+ and UP 15+ constant.

I actually don't care that there's a queue even, or that it might takes hours for me to get into the game. I'm fine and actually expect that. I understand the global semiconductor shortage has made this tough. I do take issue though when I'm getting bounced from a queue with perfect internet and YoshiP comes on here to say it's my connection. When literally nothing else has any other problem with it.

Obviously, if you have bad internet and are prone to disconnections, and you actually disconnect while in queue, that's on you. But why should the login queue have any less reliability than the actual game itself, which should in theory be way more demanding on the internet connection? Packet loss happens, and most products manage it. Why can't this one?

[Dreamsoap]

I've been stuck at 1,166 for an hour now in the Q. I can handle 2002 errors and regain my place. Right now the Q is plainly not moving at all. It's been spitting the "World is full" errors before this. Which.... isn't really an error. It's just full.

[Dreamdate]

Sigh ... get home to get into the login que but nope.. not even that is working ... geezus

[CazzT]

Please keep in mind that the growth of FFXIV in recent times is unprecedented

I would accept this as a legitimate reason if not for one simple reality.

The game has seen steady and increased rate of growth for several years. Like any business of their size, they have a department that monitors MAU, market trends, and related aspects.

They have known for YEARS that they need more servers. The sudden spike that happened this year (2021) was going to happen eventually just based on how streamers were becoming increasingly disenfranchised and disinterested in WoW. But that sudden spike only ADDED TO the ALREADY EXISTING NEED to add new servers. The need for new servers didn't suddenly pop into existence because of the 2021 spike. It's been a need for several years already. If SE would stop robbing the FFXIV coffers to keep their other franchises on life support, we wouldn't even be seeing 2002, 4004, or any of the other errors because those problems would already be fixed.

Stop making excuses.
















((inb4 people that don't understand what market analytics is and that it doesn't predict plandemics, chip shortages, etc but it does predict needs based on gathered data over long periods which FFXIV has had plenty of for a long time))

[Metdevil]

Seeing a lot of great clickbait articles online.
"How to fix error 3001"
*clicks article*
"You don't..."

[Iskander]

Well the good news is that I got the queue to come back. The bad news is that the queue has not moved a single number.

[NegativeS]

World visit doesn't make a difference either.

World visit is unavailable

Then unfortunately all I can suggest is to wait a while longer.

Hopefully the idea that you're not alone in this makes it a little more tolerable, though!

Stop making excuses.

That... wasn't really the point of the thread. I'm just trying to alleviate the collective disappointment by offering solutions which I have seen and which have worked for me.

But if you want to go down that route...

No matter how much you and everyone else tries focus all your frustration on the company, it doesn't change the fact that what happened is simply unprecedented. World of Warcraft hemorrhaging players to some JMMORPG? If you told me that back in 2010, I would have cried laughing.

For all we know, changes were made to the servers to accommodate things, and then Blizzard went all 'an hero' and dropped thousands of disgruntled players in Square's lap, leading them back to square one. Or maybe that didn't happen, and Yoshi is living it up in a penthouse somewhere making his own excuses while we all writhe around in a forum about an MMO, and we're just lucky the servers haven't caught on fire. It doesn't matter.

What I said is not wrong and is not an excuse, nor am I trying to defend Square in any way. It's the reality of the situation, and I'm trying to offer solution to make people's lives easier.

[ForteNightshade]

That... wasn't really the point of the thread. I'm just trying to alleviate the collective disappointment by offering solutions which I have seen and which have worked for me.

Your "solutions" essentially boil down to "try again later." People are well within their right to complain about an objectively terrible system that should have been better equipped to handle server congestion. There is no excuse for the sheer amount of 2002 errors players are getting. It's one thing to be waiting in a queue for several hours. I think we can all accept that to an extent. It's being in that several hour long queue only to suddenly crash and have to start all over again. Unless they intend to discount the entire month of December, this will be an ongoing problem and we, the customers, should be demanding better.

[CazzT]

That... wasn't really the point of the thread. I'm just trying to alleviate the collective disappointment by offering solutions which I have seen and which have worked for me.

But if you want to go down that route...

No matter how much you and everyone else tries focus all your frustration on the company, it doesn't change the fact that what happened is simply unprecedented.

Wow.... You just didn't read anything I wrote except those three words, huh? I clearly explained why the population spike of this year is entirely irrelevant. And you just completely ignored that entirely.

[Vahlnir]

It doesn't really matter how great someone's internet is at the moment. The login servers are to blame here.