SE I present you the cloud !

[Krotoan]

They could feasibly move SOME of their infrastructure to the cloud (like lobby servers and other non critical stuff) so it could scale and at least let people login and queue. The game servers could come later. Doesn’t have to be done all at once.

Can they? How would this affect the actual queues if the connection now has to go from their authentication databases which likely are in the same building or at least campus as the other servers, out to a remote lobby to wait, then handshaking back to the data center and world servers. The way the servers work with the login and lobby servers would have to be changed. Those changes would take time to write, test and inevitably implement.

This would introduce new errors, new problems and new calibrations necessary to tolerances like timeouts and error correction. Security concerns are also something to consider. Rather than authentication being mostly local, it'd now have possible vulnerabilities that weren't present before.

So while eventually POSSIBLE.. the question of feasible is still up to SE, and they have said no.

[Thoosa]

Can they? How would this affect the actual queues if the connection now has to go from their authentication databases which likely are in the same building or at least campus as the other servers, out to a remote lobby to wait, then handshaking back to the data center and world servers. The way the servers work with the login and lobby servers would have to be changed. Those changes would take time to write, test and inevitably implement.

This would introduce new errors, new problems and new calibrations necessary to tolerances like timeouts and error correction. Security concerns are also something to consider. Rather than authentication being mostly local, it'd now have possible vulnerabilities that weren't present before.

So while eventually POSSIBLE.. the question of feasible is still up to SE, and they have said no.

I’ve no idea, but in order for them to do this stuff requires ALOT of investment in terms of time and money (POCing stuff, re-architecting code, building cloud resources, etc etc) so it’s not a drag and drop your stuff on cloud and boom it works.

So given the age of their code and game engine and all that stuff, it’s probably not financially viable to even ever do it for 14 - hoping that people finish the msq and go play something else is the much cheaper option.

The time to do it would be for a brand new MMO. So they may do it for 7.0 or most likely won’t ever.

[Krotoan]

I’ve no idea, but in order for them to do this stuff requires ALOT of investment in terms of time and money (POCing stuff, re-architecting code, building cloud resources, etc etc) so it’s not a drag and drop your stuff on cloud and boom it works.

So given the age of their code and game engine and all that stuff, it’s probably not financially viable to even ever do it for 14 - hoping that people finish the msq and go play something else is the much cheaper option.

The time to do it would be for a brand new MMO. So they may do it for 7.0 or most likely won’t ever.

So.. using your own word: Feasibly.. they cannot and would not. The restrictive factors being cost and compatibility (likely). That's all I am suggesting.

It's not that they don't want to improve service (improving service accessibility increases profits) or that they are trying to cut corners... just that they've likely weighed and measured cost, pros and cons and came up with it not being an option.


Meanwhile OP stands there and acts like they don't even know about the option and it's a viable option to fix things RIGHT NOW.

[LariaKirin]

Among all the technical ignorance on display lately, I'm just waiting for someone to take the next step and suggest blockchain.

[DragonFlyy]

Among all the technical ignorance on display lately, I'm just waiting for someone to take the next step and suggest blockchain.

Shhhh!! don't give them any ideas!

[Thoosa]

Feasibly they could look at doing it yes

[Krotoan]

Feasibly they could look at doing it yes

.. to fix things immediately? And not spend excessive amounts of money on something that won't be necessary in a few weeks? And not possibly cause trouble later or increase the amounts of things that could go wrong that they won't have control over or have direct access to?

I think you and me think of the word feasibly differently.

I can technically get on a plane tomorrow and cart myself to the other side of my country, find a new job and residence and live comfortably.

It is not however, feasible.

[Thoosa]

Yuck, my post broke.

I mean it’s feasible they could do it, but it would take time and it depends on what their budget is and whether they think it’s worth it. It’s not like they can drop their servers straight onto google and say “yay it works” just like that

[Thoosa]

Sorry, my post broke halfway through. I have a better answer above.

[Krotoan]

Sorry, my post broke halfway through. I have a better answer above.

I do understand what you're saying.. and I agree that it's possible, I just cannot agree with your choice of words. Language is incredibly important to me to convey what one means exactly and feasible doesn't apply here as far as I can measure.

Practically and functionally, cloud servers seem to be a large undertaking both financially and labor resource wise. Something SE has looked into and decided against. As I cannot say I am privy to any of their reasons I have to accept that a company of their resources, talent, and experience combined with the passion that the FFXIV team has shown to try and deliver a certain level of experience, has not dismissed them as an option lightly.