SE I present you the cloud !

[Krotoan]

Sorry, my post broke halfway through. I have a better answer above.

I do understand what you're saying.. and I agree that it's possible, I just cannot agree with your choice of words. Language is incredibly important to me to convey what one means exactly and feasible doesn't apply here as far as I can measure.

Practically and functionally, cloud servers seem to be a large undertaking both financially and labor resource wise. Something SE has looked into and decided against. As I cannot say I am privy to any of their reasons I have to accept that a company of their resources, talent, and experience combined with the passion that the FFXIV team has shown to try and deliver a certain level of experience, has not dismissed them as an option lightly.

[QT_Melon]

I like constructive criticism, it's helped the game a lot. Things got changed due to aging GUI and such (remember the Coke problem or token turn ins, etc...)

But I'm not gonna lie - it is kinda annoying that so many think now with their Comp-TwitterIA certs are coming in and thinking they know way more than the guys who actually have to run the game servers.

Some things may be better defaulted to those actually dealing with the logistical nightmare than thinking they have the heads up after reading a reddit post or running a home server.

[Thoosa]

I do understand what you're saying.. and I agree that it's possible, I just cannot agree with your choice of words. Language is incredibly important to me to convey what one means exactly and feasible doesn't apply here as far as I can measure.

Practically and functionally, cloud servers seem to be a large undertaking both financially and labor resource wise. Something SE has looked into and decided against. As I cannot say I am privy to any of their reasons I have to accept that a company of their resources, talent, and experience combined with the passion that the FFXIV team has shown to try and deliver a certain level of experience, has not dismissed them as an option lightly.

I agree with you.

The only thing they can reasonably do is to fix the fact you get booted from the queue and then lose your place. Hopefully sooner or later because people will naturally drift away if it goes on much longer.

[Krotoan]

I agree with you.

The only thing they can reasonably do is to fix the fact you get booted from the queue and then lose your place. Hopefully sooner or later because people will naturally drift away if it goes on much longer.

Agreed. That really really sucks and I hope they find the exact cause soon. They seem to at least be on it's track and trying things out.

[Artemiz]

The difference here though is not that this is a launch specific thing, they had the exact same issue this spring when there was a mass influx of players; at least in europe there has always been a queue since around april/may this year (despite small about 200-300 people over all, which practically meant around 5-10 minutes queue time).
Even at that point it was known the server capacity was too low, to mitigate this SE stopped selling final fantasy. Now they obviously sold a shit load of endwalker licenses and this includes not only a influx of new players but a huge load of previous players that been on hiatus awaiting the new expansion. At the same time they've been driving advertisments and made the "trail/free" version a lot more generous in hope of getting additional people hooked. While at the sametime making little to no efforts in expanding the server infrastructure, now the official reason is the pandemic; yet YoshiP just recently said they _will_ expand the current datacenters with the hardware they _already_ secured, and you white knights still believe this company.

They have been open and up front about the server issues for some time now. If you don't want to actually listen thats up to you.

[Swimcito]

Funny you posted this and then all of the Pacific coast AWS servers went out one day later lol

Why would Amazon host their MMO's competition btw?

AFAIK, they cannot block SE from hosting, at least not on the EU, if they did, they would have the EU Comission on then with a huge fine.

They recently got a fine from Italy of €1.1 billion, from not allowing all sellers into a program (dont know all the details), now immagine if somehow they dont allow someone from using their services because of competition.

[AdamChattaway]

Armchair developers thinking they know more than the actual game development team.

#this thread

Armchair devs have been proven to know 1000x more than the Dice Devs on 2142 lol...

[Hasrat]

Nope, that is not the case. It was a spaghetti-coded mess in 1.0. They remade the entire game to get rid of the spaghetti code. Of course, the game has technical debt (as any large software in existence) but that is very different from spaghetti code. Even Yoshida said himself in a pre-EW interview that this spaghetti code argument is false.

That's the thing, they didn't completely "remake" the game. The game is built on the corpse of 1.0, and to do that quickly, they lifted whatever seemed to be functional and kept what they could. The inventory system is a mess because it's rooted so deep. Character creation has limited expandability.

My previous statement might be hyperbole, but it's far from false.

[Kolsykol]

People that think this is a realistic solution have virtually zero understanding of cloud computing, or what it means to maintain a service on the scale of this game.

Everyone on the internet is a self-appointed expert on everything.

Interesting how every scientist and political expert also happens to be an anonymous Redditor and Facebook grandma huh?

[AdamChattaway]

Everyone on the internet is a self-appointed expert on everything.

Interesting how every scientist and political expert also happens to be an anonymous Redditor and Facebook grandma huh?

remember when the top scientists told us to do this with C and then NOT TO DO THIS.... and then they said it was fine to do this and then NO DON;T do that and then 3 months later oh no you should do that... i won't go into details but as someone who works for the NHS and with c-19 I can tell you the TOP experts don't know jack most of the time.