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  1. #11
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    Momo_Kozuki's Avatar
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    Momo Kozuki
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Eh, just play the game. The more you whine on the forum, the less time you spend progressing toward your flying mount, the more time you walk on foot.



    Heck, the time you post here and wait for people to reply and argue with them should've been better spent to do six FATEs and get a riding map if it bugs you that much.
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  2. #12
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    Caselia's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Milk Maid
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Mind you, this isn't a post made out of jealousy, I own the mount, I'm just curious.

    Why is something so obviously pay-to-win allowed to exist? Are the devs okay with this, or are they just oblivious?

    For those who don't know: The SDS Fenrir shop mount runs at top speed even when you don't have riding maps, eliminating any need for players to get the maps if they own this mount (while also limiting them to only using that mount). It's a lose-lose situation both ways, and makes the game look bad imo. Pay to win elements shouldn't exist, even if you think movespeed 'isn't a big deal', eliminating the need for people to do the riding map unlocks is a pretty big thing I think.
    It's not max ground speed. It's only the speed of the first riding map. Also, it cost money. If you spend extra you get incentives others don't have. The premium plan in the companion app comes to mind. You want to talk for pay for an advantage that's a huge one considering how much we value storage space in this game.
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  3. #13
    Player KayRadley's Avatar
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    Kay Radley
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 90
    Don't be a Titanman.
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  4. #14
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    Feron's Avatar
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    Silas Henry
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I do think its dumb that this mount has a special game effect when no other mounts do. It's not like I can actually blast mobs with my dwarven tank cannon, right.

    That said, it's not a serious thing to me.
    (0)
    "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Nitelancer's Avatar
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    Character
    Ponder Nite
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I never bothered to get any riding maps in the past. Never had a problem with anything. I am actually surprised that some people think regular mount speed is slow.
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  6. #16
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I've still yet to buy a mount off the cash shop, nor do I own the fenrir. Don't care. I just did 6 fates and moved on with it
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  7. #17
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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    I too have it and I bought it specifically because of the groundspeed bump because the first tier is absolutely dreadful. Nevermind that I actually like the aesthetic (other than that silly smog cloud that follows it).

    Is it an unfair advantage? Yes. However it's not even close to game breaking and once flying can be unlocked the only people that (might?) care are those that didn't keep up with the aether currents.
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  8. #18
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 55
    To allow us to have our Cloud fantasy.
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  9. #19
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Mind you, this isn't a post made out of jealousy, I own the mount, I'm just curious.

    Why is something so obviously pay-to-win allowed to exist? Are the devs okay with this, or are they just oblivious?

    For those who don't know: The SDS Fenrir shop mount runs at top speed even when you don't have riding maps, eliminating any need for players to get the maps if they own this mount (while also limiting them to only using that mount). It's a lose-lose situation both ways, and makes the game look bad imo. Pay to win elements shouldn't exist, even if you think movespeed 'isn't a big deal', eliminating the need for people to do the riding map unlocks is a pretty big thing I think.
    I literally don’t understand this argument. What are you “winning” exactly? Reaching a destination faster than someone without a Mount? It’s a negligible gain if you really want to reach—just be careful a shoulder doesn’t get dislocated in the process.

    Getting to a place seconds faster isn’t “winning”. This doesn’t give you a combat advantage or other meaningful game advantage. If you think this is pay to win, please just go look at some of the items F2P games have like exp boost scrolls and gear enhancement guarantees.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-07-2021 at 08:04 AM.
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  10. #20
    Player
    Moerser's Avatar
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    Chiyoko Hikeshibaba
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    "Punishing ppl"?
    I dunno but...did u ever thought of the great amount of ppl, bein slow on purpose?
    Many of us dont want to rush anythin, or dont have any problems with amounts of time things take.
    Thats why many of us dont care.
    We even have memes about our community like "Go read/play story...NO RLY GO PLAY STORY! TAKE UR TIME!!!"
    Many of us dont like/want ppl to max lvl jumpscare their classes for obvious reasons.
    Many of us dont want to wall 2 wall everything.
    Many of us dont EVER skip cutscenes.
    As u can see, some dont even know what u are talkin about by sayin "Win".
    And i guess thats part of the reason, why most of us couldnt care less about some random mount out of 5980254720 bein ??% faster.

    I've been here for quite a while and i NEVER felt "punished" anyhow.
    I still dont care tbh.
    Personally im fine with havin to work for my progress, no matter how long it takes.

    Not meant rude.
    But its a rly great amount of ppl.

    Greetz,
    Mörser out
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    Last edited by Moerser; 12-07-2021 at 08:31 AM.

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