Some Sage Discussion

[AnotherPerson]

Personally, in regards to Addersgall, what I would like to see is that if you are in battle, the gauge keeps filling if you are at 3 (if you are not in battle and you have 3, it stops filling, and if you aren't at 3, it fills regardless of battle state). If it fills and you still are at 3 Addersgall, you just get the mp Regen and the gauge empties.

Doesn't completely punish you if you don't need healing, but you still actively use it only if you want healing.

Imo the addersgall replenishing early makes me use Kerachole earlier than the rest of my toolkit. If I need more mitigation, I'd use Holos or rotate after Kerachole expires with Taurochole. I actually like that aspect about Sages the most.

Normally for Scholars, they'd use Recitation + Excog, or just throw up an Excog if they're saving Excog for Indom since Aetherflow runs on a different resource generation timer.
For Sage, I'm currently using Kerachole first, to both slow damage and to keep addersgall regenerating within the next 20 seconds. Then if I need to use 2-3 addersgall for quick burst healing succession, I can immediately pop Rizomata afterwards. The order of Sage's toolkit works slightly different and I like that because it keeps a very steady and rhythmic healing pace going.

[Nexxus]

For now i feel that my Diagnosis is a bit to low on healing. And the Barrier one can either be too low or too large. The low barrier is good for DPS purpose, it would be cool if Toxikon/Phlegma were out of the gCD.

[IceBlueNinja]

Sage is fine to me as it is and I really have no complaints on it. I do not wish to see it become like another astro that got destroyed because some people have complaints on it or want stuff change about it. I think they did extremely well and its very engaging and fun as it is. People listed ideas about making shields more effective and a reason to use and sage provides it because you should be dishing them out so that you can get your toxicon, hamia/and the 80 shield does this well by giving burst heals everytime one get smash. So now shields are finally being put to a reason to use them.

[inhaledcorn]

I'm liking Sage so far, but I do have a few complaints:

Addersgall overcapping. It's a similar problem SCH had in 5.0 before the return of Energy Drain. For Sage, it's not so bad since Addersgall skills don't cut into DPS, but it is also a part of our MP management. I just generally dump it on Druchole just to keep Addersgall rolling. I think a button that converts a charge of Gall into Sting would be great. Sage has a slight mobility problem. Without Icarus or Toxicon charges, SGE can lose uptime. That's bad since its passive healing needs DPS casts.

Addersting as a mechanic. It's annoying that Addersting only procs on Eurkasian Diagnosis and trying to fish for it is a DPS loss. Basically, as it is now, we're going to precast 3 E. Diagnosis, then an E. Prognosis just to charge our Addersting. The above suggestion can fix that, but I doubt that's something they want to do since it's "just like Scholar".

Icarus. It needs either charges or a shorter cooldown. It's just not working as it is.

Phlegma: the 45s charge is awkward. It doesn't line up in burst windows like its supposed to. If it was 2 charges with either 30s or 60s timers, it would work much better.

Zoe: I'd rather this force a crit on my next heal instead of boost the potency. The crit aspect isn't as valuable on Sage as it is Scholar due to the lack of Deployment Tactics, but Eukrasian Diagnosis does still have a bonus shield on a crit.

[Seraphor]

It's only "involved" and a dps gain if you can preshield during downtime, like tank still pulling and every mob already has a dot or before boss pull/ the boss is untargetable and has an add phase later.
Even than it's not a dps gain single target because you get Toxikon at 66, same potency as Dosis until 72, lower potency until 82 when it becomes dps neutral again - if accumulated during downtime.

Rotating EDia and Toxikon in big pulls is a huge dps loss over just spamming Dyskrasia and firing Phlegmas. If a tank cannot be kept alive through big pulls despite using all oGCDs available, it's a slight dps return but never the way to go.
It's a last resort for papertanks or people with multiple vuln stacks about to eat an aoe, not a great strategy and inferior in terms of efficiency.

Eukrasian Diagnosis pre-pull while running to prep you a free Toxikon and start the tank off mitigated.

Soteria once the shield has popped for upkeep.

Tauro/Kera(whichever is the AoE) serves as mainenance mitigation, the other (single target) once the first runs out and the tank has lost some HP.

Haima if the damage is still coming in heavy.
Then your single target addersgall heal as necessary.

If it goes south, Physis > Zoe > Diagnosis spam (or Pneuma if available)

This gets me through pretty much every big pull.

[Hazama999]

Coming off of having mained DNC in Shadowbringers lemme just say..... I wish Icarus was on a much shorter cooldown, had multiple charges, and didn't require a target.
Yes, I've been spoiled by En Avant. What can I say, it feels pretty damn good to zip zap around...

...Alright, keep the targeting, but at least give the damn thing more charges and/or reduce its cooldown. Its inclusion, plus the fact that you have to be in melee range for phlegma, gives sage a more... Idk, kinetic feel, something that isn't too common on healers (though scholar does run pretty fast now, I guess).

Aside from that, yeah, I have to say addersting as a mechanic feels rather bland. The fact that it relies on E. Diagnosis and E. Diagnosis only also takes away from it.

[Allegor]

Minor spoiler, but relevant for sage:

I just did the quest where you play as Alphy, and despite his Toxicon being labeled as a spell, it plays as an ogcd, and it flows so much better...

[nelothi]

Minor spoiler, but relevant for sage:

I just did the quest where you play as Alphy, and despite his Toxicon being labeled as a spell, it plays as an ogcd, and it flows so much better...

I made this comment to my FC when i was doing it last night

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Minor spoiler, but relevant for sage:

I just did the quest where you play as Alphy, and despite his Toxicon being labeled as a spell, it plays as an ogcd, and it flows so much better...

I am more bothered that they lock Dosis on [4] hotkey instead of [1]. My muscle memory instinctively spams [1] "Diagnosis" and there I wonder why am I not dealing any damage.

[Brightshadow]

I am really enjoying Sage, but I wish it had more ways of augmenting its abilities and maintain DPS.

1.) Give is an ability that makes our Kardia into an AOE temporarily 15-20s.
2.) Give us an ability that puts us in a Eukrasian trance for 10-15s allowing us to spam Eukrasian versions of spells for the duration of the effect.
3.) Separate Sage DOT into its own unique button and make the Eukrasian version an AOE dot but with lower potency, lower potency by 50~100.
4.) Eukrasian Dosis is now an instant cast attack since the DoT is removed.
5.) Toxicon add an addition effect: Applies stacks of damage up to only the Sage of 5% for each stack of Toxicon used. Duration 6s per Toxicon for a maximum of 15% damage up and 18s duration max.