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    Nope none here either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taebok View Post
    Yeah, this is one of those things people love to say that is almost never true. (And they never offer proof)
    They're giving everyone game time and have suspended housing demo.
    Why? Because most people ARE having issues since launch.
    Incorrect. A significant number of people are having issues. A "significant number" might be 10% when they were aiming for <1%. Saying, "a significant number" doesn't in any way, shape or form imply a majority, or any particular fraction of a whole. If you have a sample size of 1,000,000 then 10,000 could be called significant. Leaving 990,000 unaffected.

    Most people are not having issues. 5% might be, and those 5% scream so loud that people who have no scope of vision automatically assume 99% of the player base is affected. Yet there are not even a thousand complaints here. Go ahead, count 'em. Most of the large threads have, what, 200 replies? 300 replies? And each of those replies isn't even a unique complaint.

    Then double the number of folk for Reddit, and again for whatever other social media hub one chooses. There's a couple thousand people total behind this rabble, in its entirety, and many hundreds of thousands playing, having fun, and mostly keeping quiet.

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    No queues here over 200, most are around 50, no errors, no sound problems, no disconnects. Just like most folks.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 12-07-2021 at 06:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Incorrect. A significant number of people are having issues. A "significant number" might be 10% when they were aiming for <1%. Saying, "a significant number" doesn't in any way, shape or form imply a majority, or any particular fraction of a whole. If you have a sample size of 1,000,000 then 10,000 could be called significant. .
    What can I say?
    If you think a company is going to give a refund to a million people if only 10000 are affected, you'd be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taebok View Post
    What can I say?
    If you think a company is going to give a refund to a million people if only 10000 are affected, you'd be wrong.
    It's not a refund, friend. It's 7 free days which is no skin off their back, and unlike other popular game companies, SE quite cares about their public image. So, yeah, they're gonna give 7 free days to all of their players.

    Equality = equality, not "these people over here get this refund/free time, but not those people." What are they gonna do, ask you to prove you were stuck in a queue? Everyone had longer queues. Everyone might have had a disconnect.

    I am not saying there weren't some people that had horrible times. I am saying the vast majority had few issues, or no issues except slightly longer queue times.

    What I am saying is all this 'ZOMG SE is terrible, this is the worst launch ever, I want a refund, I want people fired, SE is incompetent, blah blah blah," ... that crap is for short-sighted people who cannot conceive of a situation where they might be part of a small, vocal minority that is having issues.

    Driving a car:

    - You might get in an accident, sure.
    - Do accidents happen all day, every day? Sure.
    - Are most people affected by an accident daily? Nope. The vast majority of people are not in an auto accident daily, or ever.

    Just because you see something happening all around you, or even if that thing happens to you, does not mean that many, most, or all other people are affected by the "thing".

    Scope of vision. Millions vs. thousands. Majority vs. minority. Logic vs. empty-headed nonsense.

    It's a minor portion that are affected. Attempts to create a narrative to the contrary can be shot down with basic logic every time.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 12-07-2021 at 06:47 PM.