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    Quote Originally Posted by Viirin View Post
    I concede that given the 1.0 launch was something like 12 years ago I may have forgotten server stability/queueing issues were a problem amongst the many other problems that make it a completely different situation to this one. But, "being dropped while playing" is not an issue right now. I've played many hours and have had zero disconnects once through the queue and in the game.

    If you were whining that they were doing nothing to resolve the problems in 1.0, then it turns out you were obviously wrong, because they did do something about it. Just like they're trying to resolve the current issues (see the emergency maintenance this morning and the coming server maintenance). When I played 1.0 and I didn't like it, I stopped playing. I didn't come back for the legacy campaign. I didn't like it at all, so I didn't play it. But I didn't go and angrily post about it. They made a game that wasn't fun, but they didn't intentionally make a game that wasn't fun just to antagonize you.

    No one is saying that there aren't issues - they're saying SE is already doing everything they can reasonably be expected to do given the reality of the situation. If the only solution that makes you happy is "no more queue times", you're simply going to have to wait. There's a myriad of other games out there, play them in the meantime, or play them going forward if you like. Complaining here gains you nothing - they are already doing what they can to resolve the issue.

    Oh yeah, and re the additional game time, I am pleased to let you know despite my lack of experience working for a Fortune 500 company, I am correct about how they're doing it.

    From Mogstation, please note there are 37 days between 12/4 and 1/10:


    Your not understanding how adding 7 days of time isn't giving free time lol.

    Free time added would be on top of what we already paid for to PLAY the game. Not reimbursed time for not being able to play during that 30 day window.

    The apple analogy is confusing. Just compare whats actually in front of you.

    IE
    I pay for 30 days.
    I pay to play for 30 consecutive days.
    I get to play for 23 days.
    SE gives 7 days. (calls it free time)
    I get 30 days to play again.

    If i we were given 7 free days.
    It would be 30 + 7 days of PLAY time.


    I would suggest that the time only starts for when we actually are able to play it. By SE's words its going to be Months! That is quite a bit of time to wait around paying for a sub and already paid for content that we cannot explore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirbrah View Post
    Your not understanding how adding 7 days of time isn't giving free time lol.

    Free time added would be on top of what we already paid for to PLAY the game. Not reimbursed time for not being able to play during that 30 day window.

    The apple analogy is confusing. Just compare whats actually in front of you.

    IE
    I pay for 30 days.
    I pay to play for 30 consecutive days.
    I get to play for 23 days.
    SE gives 7 days. (calls it free time)
    I get 30 days to play again.

    If i we were given 7 free days.
    It would be 30 + 7 days of PLAY time.


    I would suggest that the time only starts for when we actually are able to play it. By SE's words its going to be Months! That is quite a bit of time to wait around paying for a sub and already paid for content that we cannot explore.
    My post does not contain the word free. I don't care if you consider it free or not. It is 7 days compensation that you aren't paying any additional fee for because you may not be able to play now. You people just want to piss and moan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viirin View Post
    My post does not contain the word free. I don't care if you consider it free or not. It is 7 days compensation that you aren't paying any additional fee for because you may not be able to play now. You people just want to piss and moan.
    Piss and moan? So what your saying is we all should bootlick like you?

    Im sorry but honestly. Defending content that is absent from being able to play reasonably without having to adjust sleep schedules or work schedules to enjoy is unacceptable.

    7 days compensation isnt being added whether its free or reimbursed. Its not adding 7 additional days that are playable. Quite simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirbrah View Post
    Piss and moan? So what your saying is we all should bootlick like you?

    Im sorry but honestly. Defending content that is absent from being able to play reasonably without having to adjust sleep schedules or work schedules to enjoy is unacceptable.

    7 days compensation isnt being added whether its free or reimbursed. Its not adding 7 additional days that are playable. Quite simple
    You're right, Yoshi-P gets off on your rage. He's lying to you. He's doing this just because it tickles him. He was all "you know what will really piss off these midwits? We'll call it "free!"." He then burst into a fit of laughter which goes on unto this very minute.
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    Let me explain this

    So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

    Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you were previously".

    Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

    Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out later to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

    But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

    But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghreystoke View Post
    So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

    Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you previously".

    Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

    Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out latter to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

    But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

    But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.
    So cancel the effing apple subscription and stop whining about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viirin View Post
    So cancel the effing apple subscription and stop whining about it.
    Well if I did that then every apple company will start selling apples the same way and no one will get apples like they should.

    Sounds like you used to like oranges but the company died and now your in apple territory running your mouth.


    :Edit: Or it could be that you have been eating the apples so long that you dont care if they are are selling you rotten apples because your life has no meaning and all you have are the apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghreystoke View Post
    Well if I did that then every apple company will start selling apples the same way and no one will get apples like they should.

    Sounds like you used to like oranges but the company died and now your in apple territory running your mouth.


    :Edit: Or it could be that you have been eating the apples so long that you dont care if they are are selling you rotten apples because your life has no meaning and all you have are the apples.
    But if you complain endlessly while continuing to give them money all the apple subscription merchants will realize the error of their ways will give you the apples you so desperately need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghreystoke View Post
    So You pay for 30 apples. You are supposed to get 1 apple a day for 30 days.

    Normally you get handed an an apple. But because so many other people want those apples, you have to travel 2 hours away to pick that apple up. But when you get said apple seller says "Sorry i already sent all the apples back to where you were previously".

    Now you have to travel back to get said apple but you get there and the apple is once again gone and you have to travel 2 hours to get said apple. No apple for that day even though you already paid for it

    Meanwhile you will Have to work to pay for the things you need. Which means you only have a certain time to get that apple because if you stay out later to travel to get the apple it is now effecting your life in a negative way even though its something you used to enjoy.

    But the apple seller tells you "Hey, I tell you what. Even though you have to deal with this every day until everyone gets sick of apples. I will add those apples a day free of charge, because im a stand up guy."

    But no compensation for all the traveling you had to endure to "try" to get your apples.

    There's a lot of problems with this analogy, because your subscription is not paying for a physical product and you don't have to travel anywhere to get it. You're also comparing it to a resource that has never been in short supply. Who seriously runs out of apples?

    The only thing your subscription gets you is the right to enter the server when it's not at full capacity, and the right to wait in line when it is.

    There are a lot of reasons to complain about the queues and errors, which everyone is experiencing right now, but your comparison is childish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    There's a lot of problems with this analogy, because your subscription is not paying for a physical product and you don't have to travel anywhere to get it. You're also comparing it to a resource that has never been in short supply. Who seriously runs out of apples?

    The only thing your subscription gets you is the right to enter the server when it's not at full capacity, and the right to wait in line when it is.

    There are a lot of reasons to complain about the queues and errors, which everyone is experiencing right now, but your comparison is childish.
    I dont really see how im being childish. Thought there was an apple theme.

    "Who seriously runs out of apples"

    Could i make the same statement of "What game company seriously runs out of server space"

    Travel = Queue times
    Apples = Gametime

    Now I will type is plain terms.

    SE botched the launch. Extending time for 7 days and using that to sugar coat that fact is the issue.

    All of you fanboys "Omgs it IS free, they are working on it, quit whining, just leave"

    Fanboys destroy games. Look at WoW. You guys dont even read the posts you just auto reply and spam.

    Im not here for your opinions and I could careless what you think. Im going to voice my issue because I love this game and want it to be the best it can be.
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    Last edited by Ghreystoke; 12-08-2021 at 01:11 PM.