Look at the state of the forums.

[Kolsykol]

Well its people with legit complaints vs white knights who excuse everything SE/yoshi p does.

Imo this isnt the first rodeo here, they should have known better seeing how arr launch was and the the subsequent launches were. Pure greed to not upgrade server tech all these years and now we see the end result.

Having legit complaints is alright it's not like I don't share the complaints about stuff like 2002.

But don't pretend as if people on here aren't losing their minds and throwing gigantic tantrums about it and treat the devs like garbage.
You can have criticism but also at the same time not devolve into throwing a tantrum akin to a six year old who ain't getting the toy they wanted at the store.

There's a difference between having criticism and expressing that and between acting as if the devs are horrible human beings that broke down your door and beat up your mom or something.

Edit: Also do you think that Yoshida doesn't want the game to be good?
If you want to criticize someone for greed then that criticism should go to SE, Yoshida and the dev team are not responsible for that do you think they don't want more money to work with too?

[Kyrj]

It's like this for literally every single MMORPG that has ever launched. Give it a week and the threads will disappear, I feel for the people stuck in queue but honestly their bitching isn't going to magically make new servers or fix the problem.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

Having legit complaints is alright it's not like I don't share the complaints about stuff like 2002.

But don't pretend as if people on here aren't losing their minds and throwing gigantic tantrums about it and treat the devs like garbage.
You can have criticism but also at the same time not devolve into throwing a tantrum akin to a six year old who ain't getting the toy they wanted at the store.

There's a difference between having criticism and expressing that and between acting as if the devs are horrible human beings that broke down your door and beat up your mom or something.

Edit: Also do you think that Yoshida doesn't want the game to be good?
If you want to criticize someone for greed then that criticism should go to SE, Yoshida and the dev team are not responsible for that do you think they don't want more money to work with too?

Pretty much this. It's like the age old saying "Don't shoot the messenger." By all indications of seeing how YoshiP reacts over the years, dude is probably beside himself and beyond upset at the state of things. Sure he's the mouthpiece and the face that we all see, but SE's decisions are by and large not his to make.

Should the 2002, 90002, 3001 etc issues be looked at more and attempted to be fixed? Absolutely. That's on them. At the same time unconstructive "feedback" in the form of attacking, yelling, screaming, and defamation aren't really helping matters.

Constructive things such as reporting that it's STILL happening, feedback on the physical queue numbers daily, explaining that more free game time should be the bare minimum here that's being offered in compensation and suggestions as to what that compensation should be are welcome. Everyone is free to express that. What we all shouldn't be doing, as a community, is screaming at the top of our lungs like a bunch of toddlers who just got told they can't have a new toy and decide to throw a tantrum in the middle of the store because of it.

The situation stinks for a good many of players. No one is unsympathetic. The constant vitriol however isn't doing anything to help.

[Kaliesto]

From what I've been experiencing based on observation with these errors that I came across some consistency, and I really do believe it is something do with this expansion.

1) I get 90006 errors out of a Primal's arse whenever I was in Zone 5, and less so in Zone 4. Zone 1-3 seem oddly fine for whatever reason, and the Endwalker dungeons seem to have this problem too.
2) Whenever I'm outside of EW everything seems completely fine.
3) I hardly get errors though if I do my Duty Finders inside of a Inn (why this happens I have no idea) except for PVP matches.

This is all just guessing work that maybe EW areas is unstable besides the congestion? Idk, its just weird things I noticed.

[Theox]

The only reason servers are acting up right now is because of SE's greed. Period. They didn't upgrade the servers in the past, knowing full well they WILL expect problems on launch in the future, "fixing" 2002 error conveniently right after early access was over. I dont want to hear anything about so called chip shortages or whatever. Other companies find ways to rent servers even if they cost more than usual. If SE truly cared about your experience first and money second, they would do something about it: either rent more servers in advance or atleast test your already existing servers to prevent potential errors, and we all know they can do it, it's not a small indie company with limited resources and unexperienced professionals; instead, they decided to not cut their budget in hopes of potentially getting more money and saving some in the log run. Just admit they f'ed up and move on. Those companies don't care about you and no amount of cringy crying on streams and what not won't change that fact.

How people choose to defend this dick move from SE is beyond me. We truly live in a society, huh?

[Darksummoner]

Imagine being a fanboi and calling people Karens for asking a company to provide a service that was paid for.

I think this person said all that needed to be said here in this statement. The audacity of people calling others Karens for what they are paying for. /shakes my head

[ReynTime]

The level of congestion was hard to foresee prior to the surge in players this year.
The 2002 error was not. It has existed since 2.0. They waited until the situation escalated drastically, nearly 10 years later, to decide it was time to do something about it.

[Darksummoner]

Adults can handle disappointment.

Toddlers throw tantrums.

Toddlers are ignorant to how things work. They know no better. Adults however pay for something that they know about and expect that product to be delivered. Throwing away free money is NOT a adult thing. Or then again for some immature adults it is. I was to be a responsible adult. Not a toddler. Square-Enix and their greed as gotten in the way. They had longggggggg before Covid to upgrade their servers. Sorry. But no excuses anymore.

[Mialee]

Says the person from Dec 2021. Nice trolling kid.

Yeah december account are troll right... that why I have a december account and I have 3161h of playtime you should know forum date and sub date is not the same!

[SilverObi]

Fantastic bait thread, well done!