Done- Can't beat Shadowbringer quest playing as other Scions, done with game

[Jarlent]

Well that's exactly the feedback you need to read.

I'm noticing your join date is this very month. We're only 5 days into the month, and you're already doing level 80 content.

Now they allow skips and all that - but this is kinda why it's a bad idea.

Two things to note here:

Skill in the game for you might not be where it should be for the content you're now doing. Skill comes with practice, and that takes time.

And 2, the story is something you either skipped or rush-played through. So you don't have emotional attachment to it. As someone who played through this over the years - the very quest you're noting was a major high point for me, and for a lot of others as well. Characters we had grown to be strongly invested in became characters we got to control and play, if only for a short moment. And it is a 'call back' to Final Fantasy tradition where characters you meet in the story become members of your playable cast.

If you put more time into the story and the game, this content would have been too easy for you, as it was for many of us. And your frustration would have swung the other way - that you only got to play them for so short a time.

This content was driven by us, the community. This was Yoshi-P giving us long requested fan service. If you took more time with the journey, you would probably have been excited by it. Maybe not as much as those of us who rode the hype train of wanting it for many years, but you'd have some of that hype going into it, and probably more skill in playing the game to be able to know how to handle what, for a player that plays at a normal pace to that level, doing all the assorted dungeons and trials that teach how to spot what to do, would have been easy content.

Literally the whole reason I'm upset is because I was excited for the story; playing as shitty versions of classes I already play with a bunch of stupid checks isn't part of the story

Having to heal without having the people I'm supposed to heal in the place where my party health is so I can track their health isn't part of the story

You don't know me, and I don't need your feedback because your rude criticisms of me isn't going to make me enjoy these shitty missions.

And I never liked that mechanic in old FF games, but no FF game ever made you do it half a dozen times, and it was almost exclusively for characters/classes you couldn't play yet.

Either way it's *not fun for me* so I do not care whether you enjoyed it. Make it optional; what's unreasonable about that.

[MilkieTea]

Hi, I too had some issues with a few of the scion quests - managed to get through them on my first try though (luckily!) Where, exactly, is the issue? If you’ve gotten the chance to read tooltips (which I’m assuming so since you said you’ve been trying for 2 hours), what skills are on your hotbar and what are you fighting? And if you can, where exactly is the deathpoint for you?

As an aside, this is a staple of the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole. It was introduced pretty late into FF14 but FF as a whole allows you to play as others in your ‘party,’ or questing group, essentially. It’s something that’ll keep happening but it’s a small part of an entire game full of thousands of hours of content. You’ll only be asked to do this kind of thing once or twice an expansion.

[MilkieTea]

I know how to beat it but again

I don't *care* anymore because it's already soured the taste of the MSQ in my mouth, and knowing there are more of the missions coming only makes it worse

And it's clear that i'm not welcome in the community because I dared criticize something so it looks like it was a good call anyway

FF14 and it's [redacted] I'm done

oop… never mind then. Have fun elsewhere, don’t really think we need such an attitude in this game in the first place to be fair. Have a nice day!

[New_Game_Plus]

Ah, this thread made me laugh. Honestly it's not even really hard. Doesn't seem like you really want help and are just set on trashing the game cos of this quest so bye!

[iVolke]

You're just bad at the game. I've done every instance in the game, how tf is anyone getting hard stuck on any of them? Like can you record yourself and upload it?

How can you possible be failing these instances? I seriously can't think of how to fail other than getting hit by AOEs, not doing mechanics correctly (When the npc tells you to stand there, stand the **** there), or just not using your abilities.

[Jarlent]

oop… never mind then. Have fun elsewhere, don’t really think we need such an attitude in this game in the first place to be fair. Have a nice day!

What, the attitude that someone doesn't like being talked down to and told they don't play the game right?

[Jarlent]

Ah, this thread made me laugh. Honestly it's not even really hard. Doesn't seem like you really want help and are just set on trashing the game cos of this quest so bye!

I *literally said* that I don't want help

I am giving feedback to the devs because of this quest

Because a major quest in the MSQ shouldn't be this frustrating

[Jarlent]

Hi, I too had some issues with a few of the scion quests - managed to get through them on my first try though (luckily!) Where, exactly, is the issue? If you’ve gotten the chance to read tooltips (which I’m assuming so since you said you’ve been trying for 2 hours), what skills are on your hotbar and what are you fighting? And if you can, where exactly is the deathpoint for you?

As an aside, this is a staple of the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole. It was introduced pretty late into FF14 but FF as a whole allows you to play as others in your ‘party,’ or questing group, essentially. It’s something that’ll keep happening but it’s a small part of an entire game full of thousands of hours of content. You’ll only be asked to do this kind of thing once or twice an expansion.

Yeah and I'm not willing to do it once or twice an expansion

That's what I'm telling the developers

[Hayden]

Most of them were easy, a few were mildly difficult. None of them should have taken 2 hrs to beat. You're clearly missing some important mechanic.

Read the text, often other scions will ask for help, or tell you to focus on one mob over another. They practically hold your hand through these instances.

Read the text...and avoid aoe's

NPC AI has gotten much better as the game has aged, if you're failing the instance, its not the NPC's fault my dude.

[Helbya]

Well, when you post to a public forum like this you're going to get feedback. and when that feedback mostly consists of advice, critique, and otherwise opposite opinions then maybe it's you who stands alone. so far all I'm getting are the rantings of a whiney brat that a scripted instance was too hard and every threat plausible to 'get back' at the devs for daring to make such a 'difficult' encounter when the story was rising in tension.
I will admit, running one of my main classes in these story scenarios as another character and losing access to my hotbars and abilities is jarring. Trying to play classes I Know in handicapped settings like those. but it also drives the point home in how Strong the WoL is comparatively. Thancred is no slouch in a fight, but even when we control him we have not half the control of a Gunbreaker than we do as our WoL.
So chuck my vote in the opposition pile but I enjoy these scenarios.