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    Siegfried Reinfold
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    What a dramatic way to say "I can't accept the fact that the world moves on without me."

    If everything was perfectly catered to all ~8 billion people so nobody felt like they were 'being punished,' there would be no life to live. If you can't accept the fact that the current most popular MMO has server issues on the drop of the most anticipated expansion in it's history, it's time to introspect.
    You doin this for free?
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    Negative Space
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    You doin this for free?
    Just bored at the moment waiting on someone to be ready to leave. If the image in your head is 'white knight' or 'bootlicker,' sorry that I have a view of reality that isn't twisted by self entitlement?

    It's an expansion launch. Every MMO has them. Every MMO has server issues during them. Complaining does nothing but further make the devs hate the players. It happened in WoW and will happen here too.
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    Just bored at the moment waiting on someone to be ready to leave. If the image in your head is 'white knight' or 'bootlicker,' sorry that I have a view of reality that isn't twisted by self entitlement?

    It's an expansion launch. Every MMO has them. Every MMO has server issues during them. Complaining does nothing but further make the devs hate the players. It happened in WoW and will happen here too.
    Right, why expect things you pay for to work properly and be available to you, just accept that you pay for the chance to play not to actually use the software.
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    Noel Farrence
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Right, why expect things you pay for to work properly and be available to you, just accept that you pay for the chance to play not to actually use the software.
    You didn't pay for early access. You paid for the expansion and got early access as a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Lime View Post
    You didn't pay for early access. You paid for the expansion and got early access as a bonus.
    Oh, so is there a way I can log in and not to EW stuff and do other things that bypasses the queue and other errors? No, people can't log in to do anything at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Oh, so is there a way I can log in and not to EW stuff and do other things that bypasses the queue and other errors? No, people can't log in to do anything at all.
    The cost of early access was $0. You claimed you paid for early access, which you did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Lime View Post
    The cost of early access was $0. You claimed you paid for early access, which you did not.
    No I am claiming to pay a sub for a game that I should be able to play when the servers are online, where did I mention specifically early access to EW?
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Lime View Post
    You didn't pay for early access. You paid for the expansion and got early access as a bonus.
    Technically, they paid for game time to be able to actually play the game, which has been compromised. As a result, the frustration, which is a perfectly valid response.
    The consolation is that Squeen is providing game time as compensation for the inability of players to play, which is nice of them, but it also shows that these weird white-knighty defense posts aren't necessary because not even Squeen is convinced that this state of affairs is ok.

    Just let these people complain and get it out of their system. It's valid, and Squeen should be allowed to see the unrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    Technically, they paid for game time to be able to actually play the game, which has been compromised. As a result, the frustration, which is a perfectly valid response.
    The consolation is that Squeen is providing game time as compensation for the inability of players to play, which is nice of them, but it also shows that these weird white-knighty defense posts aren't necessary because not even Squeen is convinced that this state of affairs is ok.

    Just let these people complain and get it out of their system. It's valid, and Squeen should be allowed to see the unrest.
    If not frothing at the mouth because of an MMO launch makes me a white-knighty then by sword and shield I will glisten like holy radiance. I'm stuck in the same queue as everyone else. They're allowed to complain on a public forum and I'm allowed to respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0Lime View Post
    If not frothing at the mouth because of an MMO launch makes me a white-knighty then by sword and shield I will glisten like holy radiance. I'm stuck in the same queue as everyone else. They're allowed to complain on a public forum and I'm allowed to respond.
    You're shining brighter than that one scene from Even Stevens when Ren had that smile-off with that other girl in the hallway.

    Just as you're allowed to respond, I'm allowed to say that the argument you're making is a bit short-sighted: "you didn't pay for early access" means very little, when "early access" for this game's expansion is generally just "normal playtime" for the game itself, which is compromised whether or not you purchased the expansion. It's not as if Squeen was pulling the game down for all other players; this is also not an initial release of the whole game, where no one's ever logged in before.
    It's a very complicated situation. I'm just saying, it's a good idea to remember that, even as we're both sitting in queue (if you still are).
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