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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    people keep saying EW launch is not even the worst
    but i cannot remember seeing this volume of vitriol with SB or ShB... OwO'
    i started at early-ish HW, 3.0, so did not live to see that bottleneck if there was any
    can remember raubahn block, and, uh, yeah, it was not fun - so i did something else while waiting,
    and suddenly!! the waiting was not so unfun anymore
    It's because we have more players than we did for every prior worse expac.

    There's also a big difference between not being able to progress and not even being able to play; and the latter is more upsetting for a lot of people. I personally found Raubahn Savage to be worse because you basically combined difficult queues with an inability to progress even if you did get in, as well as the whole of DF being broken for a large portion of that, but I can understand why EW's launch would be more upsetting to a lot of people.
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    More needs to be done
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    It's because we have more players than we did for every prior worse expac.

    There's also a big difference between not being able to progress and not even being able to play; and the latter is more upsetting for a lot of people. I personally found Raubahn Savage to be worse because you basically combined difficult queues with an inability to progress even if you did get in, as well as the whole of DF being broken for a large portion of that, but I can understand why EW's launch would be more upsetting to a lot of people.

    Because for many the queues means not being able to play? Is that really so hard to understand? Not everyone play hardcore, not everyone is unemployed and have infinite time to wait in a queue regardless if the queue presumably worked without throwing errors at you, and others took days of to play and are unable to due to reasons… but every single one paid for this ”experience”.

    Myself for example been in queue ever since I got home- started at position 6300; now I have to prepare for tomorrow and go to bed- queue position at 4100. I think this is the worst expansion release I’ve ever seen and yet I’ve done MMOs since 2005.
    This is totally unacceptable for a commercial game in my opinion, way way worse than the release of something like Cyberpunk 2077 and yet that was a trainwreck.
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  4. #164
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    And whats really said is basically the only thing I’ve seen of endwalker is first quest and the titlescreen… cause I cant get on… at all, maybe things are better in US or JP but in the EU its a catastrophe.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiw View Post
    Because for many the queues means not being able to play? Is that really so hard to understand? Not everyone play hardcore, not everyone is unemployed and have infinite time to wait in a queue regardless if the queue presumably worked without throwing errors at you, and others took days of to play and are unable to due to reasons… but every single one paid for this ”experience”.

    Myself for example been in queue ever since I got home- started at position 6300; now I have to prepare for tomorrow and go to bed- queue position at 4100. I think this is the worst expansion release I’ve ever seen and yet I’ve done MMOs since 2005.
    This is totally unacceptable for a commercial game in my opinion, way way worse than the release of something like Cyberpunk 2077 and yet that was a trainwreck.

    If this is the worse for you, then you clearly haven't played many games xD
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  6. #166
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    Keithan Drake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    people keep saying EW launch is not even the worst
    but i cannot remember seeing this volume of vitriol with SB or ShB... OwO'
    i started at early-ish HW, 3.0, so did not live to see that bottleneck if there was any
    can remember raubahn block, and, uh, yeah, it was not fun - so i did something else while waiting,
    and suddenly!! the waiting was not so unfun anymore
    Times have changed. These are different circumstances but I don't remember seeing the same level of anger before, even one month after the original 1.0 launch debacle.

    I am not justifying the disservice though: we all paid money to play and I gladly welcome the refund for the days in which the service was not promptly available.

    That is enough to make me happy. We've waited 12 years to see the end of the saga, we can wait 12 more days.
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  7. #167
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    Then leave. I get that you're 'entitled to a service' but all online game ToS clearly state that its subject to potential disruptions.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkhen View Post
    If this is the worse for you, then you clearly haven't played many games xD
    Okay? What other game has been unplayable for 4 days (give or take half an hour)?
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  9. #169
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    So is 12 days the magic number now ? I have seen others say it.
    EU is a mess,so unless they pull a server out of thin air think it will be a tad longer then that.
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Then leave. I get that you're 'entitled to a service' but all online game ToS clearly state that its subject to potential disruptions.
    This non-toxic friendly community is amazing. Defending a party at fault for what reason?
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