I don't accept your apology

[Venjamin]

And we keep telling them, it does that already. Every single time I got 2002'd today I log back in, queue again and find myself in the same spot as before I got 2002'd. The system needs to be more reliable and the grace period longer, believe you me I agree there, but it is getting so very tiring to see people talk as if it isn't there at all.

Except you're wrong.

It may be there SOMETIMES, but it is not always there. I got to players in queue 1. 2002 error happened. I logged in again as quickly as possible - within 10-15 seconds + the time for the logos to flash. Got hit with a lobby error. Tried again, got in - Spot in line? 4000+.

Maybe, just maybe, you stop talking about how "it's already there!" when it is NOT a guarantee?

[Lanadra]

Except you're wrong.

It may be there SOMETIMES, but it is not always there. I got to players in queue 1. 2002 error happened. I logged in again as quickly as possible - within 10-15 seconds + the time for the logos to flash. Got hit with a lobby error. Tried again, got in - Spot in line? 4000+.

Maybe, just maybe, you stop talking about how "it's already there!" when it is NOT a guarantee?

Maybe you should read my entire post, hmm? Particularly that part where I literally said that it needs to be more reliable and the grace period longer, eh?

[Venjamin]

Maybe you should read my entire post, hmm? Particularly that part where I literally said that it needs to be more reliable and the grace period longer, eh?

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

[Souyo]

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

I'm hearing something about Schrodinger's Queue Placeholder in this somewhere.

[Lanadra]

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

[Venjamin]

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

No, it seems like you're mocking or downplaying the people who are upset about a system that doesn't work?

[CazzT]

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

The edit emphasizes the words that are naturally emphasized when people read that. You are coming across as arrogant and dismissive.

Dozens upon dozens of people are saying they are logging back in within 15-30 seconds after a 2002 or 4004 and they're at the back of the line again.

From my own personal experience, this happens 99% of the time I get booted due to an error. Do I agree a system is in place? Yes. But it's clearly not functioning properly. Whether that's due to not giving enough grace period or some other back end issue that's dropping people from their spot in the line, I don't know. But I can see from my end that it is not working the way it should.

And your statement of "we keep telling them it's there" is dismissive of people like myself telling you it's happening to us. And it's being said in an arrogant way.

[Lanadra]

The edit emphasizes the words that are naturally emphasized when people read that. You are coming across as arrogant and dismissive.

Dozens upon dozens of people are saying they are logging back in within 15-30 seconds after a 2002 or 4004 and they're at the back of the line again.

From my own personal experience, this happens 99% of the time I get booted due to an error. Do I agree a system is in place? Yes. But it's clearly not functioning properly. Whether that's due to not giving enough grace period or some other back end issue that's dropping people from their spot in the line, I don't know. But I can see from my end that it is not working the way it should.

And your statement of "we keep telling them it's there" is dismissive of people like myself telling you it's happening to us. And it's being said in an arrogant way.

You're.. misquoting me. Which is part of what I've been trying to tell Venjamin I take issue with. It's very easy to be all like 'oh you come off like this' when even the very words I said are changed to make it look worse, when words and a different sentence structure are put into my mouth. Again, you aren't even properly quoting something I said, instead quoting a sentence I did not post in that manner.

[Venjamin]

You're.. misquoting me. Which is part of what I've been trying to tell Venjamin I take issue with. It's very easy to be all like 'oh you come off like this' when even the very words I said are changed to make it look worse, when words and a different sentence structure are put into my mouth. Again, you aren't even properly quoting something I said, instead quoting a sentence I did not post in that manner.

Okay, then let's use your exact words, rather than my abridging your meaning. My apologies for condensing it, even if it doesn't change the tone in which it's read.

"And we keep telling them, it does that already."

"We keep telling them, it's already there."

Still dismissive. Still condescending. It puts you in a position of authority / correctness over these poor misguided people who are clearly not having the issues they're claiming to have.

Or again, that's just how it reads. You aren't the person to tell them 'it does that already' when it does not do that already.

Pardon me for abridging your speech, and complaining that "it is getting so very tiring to see people talk as if it isn't there at all."

Better?