Thread: Instance this Instanced that! ( Pre 2.0 talk!)

Originally Posted by Zyph

Instanced Dungeons: Yes. Think Assault, Salvage, Dynamis, etc. However, the open world "dungeons" we have (Mistbeard Cove, Copperbell Mines, Mun-tuy) should be made more interesting as well, maybe with unique mob families, treasure chests that require keys dropped from those mobs, etc.

Instanced Boss Fights: Sometimes. We have a good system going now with the primals, yet open world "HNMs" would also be welcome.

Instanced Battles/Events: No. No no. It makes it even harder for players to just pop in and enjoy. If this game is to be easily accessible, it's completely backwards to make content like this 8 person party only. We should be able to "party up" for things like this but also be able to take part solo. Campaign and Besieged were good examples of this from FFXI, and the Imperial Assault events are a good example of this that we have in this game now. Hamlet Defense is a BAD example of this.




What do medals even mean anyway?

God yes...a lot of the FFXI supports don't realize just how much content in FFXI was instanced>.>;

I seriously think we'll hear a lot less about complaints if SE wasn't giving us half-assed content to tide us over to 2.0

But when we get some real content, instanced or not, SE needs to be clever with it, no more of this speed run bullshit>.>

However if HNM's were open world, SE really needs to implement them carefully. A simple pop spot like in FFXI is simply a horrid idea. I will give it to them tho, they started getting creative with HNM's later down the line. HNM's like Ixion, That sandworm thing, Turul(not really a HNM's but a good concept none the less) were steps into the right direction. HNM's that weren't static, Ixion popped in multiple zones, and Turul roamed around a zone. They just didn't stay in one spot I think that's the point I'm driving it. You actually would have to look for them lol

Originally Posted by Allistar

The thing is we never called them instances...we called them by the names given to them...same thing with raids and dps...FF has its own identity, its what seperated it from all other games...it was good enuff to stand on its own, we survived with both open world, instances and HNM content before and we can again...

I know was just trying to put things in perspective. I'm in favor of both types of content and hope we see plenty of each. A part of what I think separated FFXI from other games was the uniqueness of some events. Combine with the time commitment it took to get anywhere or anything in that game kinda forces fond memories.

However if HNM's were open world, SE really needs to implement them carefully. A simple pop spot like in FFXI is simply a horrid idea. I will give it to them tho, they started getting creative with HNM's later down the line. HNM's like Ixion, That sandworm thing, Turul(not really a HNM's but a good concept none the less) were steps into the right direction. HNM's that weren't static, Ixion popped in multiple zones, and Turul roamed around a zone. They just didn't stay in one spot I think that's the point I'm driving it. You actually would have to look for them lol

Do you realize that people had characters with bots in every zone that Ixion and Sandworm popped in that would spam the LS chat that it popped. So the people who got them most were the ones that cheated.

Originally Posted by Zumi

Do you realize that people had characters with bots in every zone that Ixion and Sandworm popped in that would spam the LS chat that it popped. So the people who got them most were the ones that cheated.

I know full well that's why I said it was a step in the right direction. It was at least better then sitting in dragons aery with 5 other ls's trying to claim bot over you.

I saying open world HNM's can work if SE takes an active step in making them difficult to claim/find.

well if they want to keep "most people" they need some of everything. not everyone wants to do just boss fights or run around in a little cave all day to get equipment you dont need, since you did the instance without it.

look at newer games like tera they have open world & instances plus pvp, big seamless world. next year elder scrolls online is going more of the real MMO with public dungeons there even going to use instances. if ffxiv is going mostly instances its pertty much doomed when theres already games with everything and can handle mass numbers of people at any given moment. and SE is gonna stay with one wow gimick. every heavily instanced game died or went F2P is something to think about.

if they do limit them selfs there just being stubborn and want to keep people away. we'll find out in january when 2.0 is 100% live.

p.s people are scared of challenges & scared competition and are anti social.

I've almost giving up and asking SE to stop instancing things. I'll wait for 2.0 to ask for that again when we might have a server that is capable of displaying the population of a MMO game.

Seriously SE I don't care about your primal fights, raids, and all that crap. What I do want is a world that I can explore on my own, with my friends, go to unknown corners for no reason at all and find amazing things! I don't want a single path to the goal line, I don't want floating (!)'s to guide my way. I don't want a time limit in the cave I'm exploring, and I don't want to have all the cool stuff in the game barred behind a instanced gate.

You can give people instanced content all you want, but give the people who want something else a bone to chew on...please?